Great insight on Manti T'eo from Ex-GM Bill Polian

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  • Dee Dub
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    • Jan 2010
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    Great insight on Manti T'eo from Ex-GM Bill Polian

    Let me put this to rest. Despite all of the commentary coming from those outside the league following [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29240/manti-teo"]Manti Te'o[/URL]'s combine performance, among those inside the game that I've spoken to, no one has soured on him significantly.
    Teams understand he's been under incredible pressure and has been for the past month after allegedly becoming the victim of a hoax. Step back away from the story and think about how players perform for a second. Coaches and GMs are constantly preaching about eliminating distractions. There's a reason for that. In order to perform well as an athlete you need to be single-minded, focused on the job at hand, right down to the minute details. If that focus is shattered, if you're distracted, you do not perform as well. In an environment like the combine, where inches and tenths of a second are scrutinized, details matter.
    Inside the game, all of us rely on tape, not on the combine as be-all, end-all. Sometimes we get caught up in the event and the excitement and make more of the combine than those evaluating these prospects. To them, the game film shows you what kind of football player he is.
    Absent the 40 time, Te'o's tests actually solidified what most thought about him. He is instinctive, tough, a good tackler and more quick than fast. Everyone is looking forward to his 40 in South Bend on March 26, and that will be the dispositive piece in the puzzle relative to speed.
    The fluctuations in his draft stock I've been hearing about don't make much sense to me. The notion that a player's draft stock can change in a day, or after a single drill, is as much of a hoax as the one Te'o's been caught up in.
    My feeling -- one shared by many of my colleagues in the league -- is that when all is said and done, he's in the lower quarter of the first round, maybe the top of second depending on his final 40 time. If he drops down in that range, however, he'll provide great value.


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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    IMO he may get drafted higher but you will actually be getting the next Rey Malaluga who the Bumgals got at the top of Round 2. T'eo will be Sean Lee and Paul Pozlusny. Good but not special. Therefore shouldn't be a round 1 pick.
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    • Dee Dub
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      • Jan 2010
      • 4652

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      IMO he may get drafted higher but you will actually be getting the next Rey Malaluga who the Bumgals got at the top of Round 2. T'eo will be Sean Lee and Paul Pozlusny. Good but not special. Therefore shouldn't be a round 1 pick.
      I dont agree. I think he has shown the ability to improve. This past season he dropped the weight and was asked to cover more. He came away with 7 picks. That right there makes him better than Mauluga. And I contest, if he gets with a team like the Steelers, and is not asked to do more than zone cover, add the weight back (255), and play coming forward, he will light it up in the opponents back field.

      I believe what Polian said about the distraction. It is a major reason for the drop off in the Championship game as well as his 40 time. A professional athlete that is distracted will under-perform.
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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
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        #4
        A player who puts himself in a position to be distracted is a player I dont want...

        You a shouldnt have to work this hard to convince people he is a baller.
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        • Dee Dub
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          • Jan 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          A player who puts himself in a position to be distracted is a player I dont want...

          You a shouldnt have to work this hard to convince people he is a baller.
          Some times it's unavoidable. But regardless what Bill Polian has had to say really puts all that you had on this situation to shame. He has far greater weight than you. And he is right on what he has said about this.

          And I most of what I say about him is to counter the garbage you have put out there on him. Stuff that is totally incorrect. And I know he can ball and nothing anyone else has to say changes that.
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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
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            #6
            Originally posted by Dee Dub
            Some times it's unavoidable. But regardless what Bill Polian has had to say really puts all that you had on this situation to shame. He has far greater weight than you. And he is right on what he has said about this.

            And I most of what I say about him is to counter the garbage you have put out there on him. Stuff that is totally incorrect. And I know he can ball and nothing anyone else has to say changes that.
            Polian is known for putting together great defenses so I beleive him....lol.
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            • Shoe
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              • May 2008
              • 4044

              #7
              Originally posted by Dee Dub
              Some times it's unavoidable. But regardless what Bill Polian has had to say really puts all that you had on this situation to shame. He has far greater weight than you. And he is right on what he has said about this.

              And I most of what I say about him is to counter the garbage you have put out there on him. Stuff that is totally incorrect. And I know he can ball and nothing anyone else has to say changes that.
              So could Lawrence Phillips ball, and a 1000 other guys who's career derailed for reasons outside the lines. You are telling everyone to ignore the off the field stuff.
              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
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                #8
                Originally posted by Shoe
                So could Lawrence Phillips ball, and a 1000 other guys who's career derailed for reasons outside the lines. You are telling everyone to ignore the off the field stuff.
                There will always be off the field stuff... the best players dont use it as an excuse for a bad game.

                He had a bad game... it happens but unfortunately it happened on a night when EVERYONE tuned in.

                As far as what is true with the Lennay hoax... it sure is a win win for Te'o. If he plays well he is an awesome guy with awesome character and heart. If he plays like trash, well.. he had distractions. The truth, whether its mine, Ronai, Dubs or Te'o's.... anyone you choose its still a crazy story.... the problem tho is it wasnt disclosed prior to the game or right after the game so it shouldnt be used as an excuse for looking overmatched by NFL talent. he had a chance to redeem himself in the senior bowl and he declined...
                Last edited by feltdizz; 03-02-2013, 12:52 PM.
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                • NorthCoast
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                  • Sep 2008
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  A player who puts himself in a position to be distracted is a player I dont want...

                  You a shouldnt have to work this hard to convince people he is a baller.
                  agreed feltdizz.... distractions at the pro level can only get worse. money, women, media.... is Teo that fragile that it so affected his play?

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                  • Dee Dub
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                    • Jan 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shoe
                    So could Lawrence Phillips ball, and a 1000 other guys who's career derailed for reasons outside the lines. You are telling everyone to ignore the off the field stuff.
                    Yeah let's compare T'eo to Lawrence Phillips..... Manti T'eo has never been in any kind of off-field trouble. Somebody did something wrong to him, not the other way around.

                    This post above is about an Ex-Gm (who was one of the best), believing that Manti T'eo's performance on the field was affected by this incident. Your personal dislike for this guy means very little. You want to paint a picture based on that?...then have it. I believe what Polian said is very true. Can somebody tell me that what he has to say about player performances and off field distractions isnt true? Yeah..I didnt think so.
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                    • feltdizz
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                      • May 2008
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                      #11
                      Polian said most GM's think he will go in the 24 to 32 range or be a high second. I've said all along I think he is a mid 2nd or 3rd rounder.

                      As far as being distracted or under intense scrutiny... it sounded like Polian is saying a player must stay focused and if not, they underperform.

                      IMO it looks like Te'o cant handle the pressure and I'm not sure why you see it as a positive.
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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
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                        #12
                        Are you really telling me Te'o was too distracted to wrap up Lacy once he made contact?
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                        • Shoe
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                          • May 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dee Dub
                          Yeah let's compare T'eo to Lawrence Phillips..... Manti T'eo has never been in any kind of off-field trouble. Somebody did something wrong to him, not the other way around.

                          This post above is about an Ex-Gm (who was one of the best), believing that Manti T'eo's performance on the field was affected by this incident. Your personal dislike for this guy means very little. You want to paint a picture based on that?...then have it. I believe what Polian said is very true. Can somebody tell me that what he has to say about player performances and off field distractions isnt true? Yeah..I didnt think so.
                          You're assuming somebody did something wrong to him... I'm saying that I don't believe it (Just like I don't believe Tim Tebow, the most eligible bachelor in Gainesville U of F, was a virgin.) Now... if e.g, he was gay (which is the dirty little rumor, which BTW--I'm not calling that a flaw or anything), I could certainly understand it weighing on him (i.e. trying to keep it in the closet)... in that case, I could certainly understand his lies, his performance on the biggest of stages, etc.

                          BTW, Dee... I'm not attacking you personally. It seems like I'm commenting on your posts, but it's just talk. After all we root for the same team!
                          I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                          • Dee Dub
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Shoe
                            You're assuming somebody did something wrong to him... I'm saying that I don't believe it (Just like I don't believe Tim Tebow, the most eligible bachelor in Gainesville U of F, was a virgin.) Now... if e.g, he was gay (which is the dirty little rumor, which BTW--I'm not calling that a flaw or anything), I could certainly understand it weighing on him (i.e. trying to keep it in the closet)... in that case, I could certainly understand his lies, his performance on the biggest of stages, etc.
                            But he isnt gay. And there is no evidence to show he is. As I have shown over and over and over, T'eo engaged into this relationship based on a picture of a woman. And an actual woman (which I have also shown proof of), was talking to him on the phone (not Reniah Tuiosospo). If you or anyone else chooses to think other wise, when there really isnt anything factual that supports it, then I think that is a "you" problem.

                            Originally posted by Shoe

                            BTW, Dee... I'm not attacking you personally. It seems like I'm commenting on your posts, but it's just talk. After all we root for the same team!
                            Peace.
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                            • lloydroid
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2026

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              IMO he may get drafted higher but you will actually be getting the next Rey Malaluga who the Bumgals got at the top of Round 2. T'eo will be Sean Lee and Paul Pozlusny. Good but not special. Therefore shouldn't be a round 1 pick.
                              I don't even know if he will be a Poz, to be honest. Has no one else noticed that he came in 15 lbs lighter, while not any faster AND was visibly much less muscular? Some observers described him as "soft" and "flabby." All that is a huge red flag for him being on juice or HGH during the season. RED FLAG on dat sh-t. Fo wheel.

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