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  • phillyesq
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 7568

    Wexell Article on Vaccaro

    I'm warming to this pick more and more. This is a guy that could help in the slot initially before becoming the heir apparent to a safety position. The biggest thing I question is the lack of picks during his college career.[URL="http://pit.scout.com/2/1269779.html"]

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  • Mister Pittsburgh
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    #2
    If we go S in round 1 at 17 there is no excuse for that safety to start year one and us cut whoever he is replacing to free up cap room to address other weaknesses on the team. Other teams somehow start rookies in their secondaries without that rookie getting torched and picked on every game....why can't we?
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    • supersteeler
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2012
      • 1089

      #3
      Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
      If we go S in round 1 at 17 there is no excuse for that safety to start year one and us cut whoever he is replacing to free up cap room to address other weaknesses on the team. Other teams somehow start rookies in their secondaries without that rookie getting torched and picked on every game....why can't we?
      I think Troy could answer your question better than me, he was one of the best safety's coming out in years and couldn't start for our team. It's been said LeBeau's system is complicated to learn as a rookie, so I assume thats part of it, but his defense is usually one of the best every year so I can't complain.
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      • phillyesq
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 7568

        #4
        Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
        If we go S in round 1 at 17 there is no excuse for that safety to start year one and us cut whoever he is replacing to free up cap room to address other weaknesses on the team. Other teams somehow start rookies in their secondaries without that rookie getting torched and picked on every game....why can't we?
        I'd rather see a rookie worked into the mix first in passing situations, with a year behind both Clark and Polamalu to learn. Plus, it gives you some depth at safety. I would rather see Clark/Vaccaro if Troy gets injured than Vaccaro paired with Mundy, Will Allen, etc.

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        • Dee Dub
          Hall of Famer
          • Jan 2010
          • 4652

          #5
          Originally posted by phillyesq
          I'm warming to this pick more and more. This is a guy that could help in the slot initially before becoming the heir apparent to a safety position. The biggest thing I question is the lack of picks during his college career.[URL="http://pit.scout.com/2/1269779.html"]

          http://pit.scout.com/2/1269779.html[/URL]
          Yeah Vaccaro looks good in a uniform but when I watched him I didn't see greatness. I didn't see a lot of big plays. Now compare his on-field performance with that of Baccari Rambo. Night and day. Rambo had 3 times as many picks and 10 more PD's over the course of their college careers.
          Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

          1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 3937

            #6
            I saw many missed tackles with Vaccaro and personally think he is a FS only.

            FYI Rambo didn't run and Reid ran an unofficial 4.53.

            CB Rhodes ran an unofficial 4.41.

            Swearinger 4.62.

            Vaccaro 4.59.
            Last edited by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY; 02-26-2013, 12:59 PM.

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            • Slapstick
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 0

              #7
              Originally posted by Dee Dub
              Yeah Vaccaro looks good in a uniform but when I watched him I didn't see greatness. I didn't see a lot of big plays. Now compare his on-field performance with that of Baccari Rambo. Night and day. Rambo had 3 times as many picks and 10 more PD's over the course of their college careers.
              But, what will be the best fit for the Steelers?
              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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              • Dee Dub
                Hall of Famer
                • Jan 2010
                • 4652

                #8
                Originally posted by Slapstick
                But, what will be the best fit for the Steelers?
                I think they both would fit. I think Vaccaro is better suited as a SS. He lacks in coverage/ball skills and Rambo is better playing a center field role at FS. He is very good at reading a QB. and
                Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3937

                  #9
                  Vacarro misses to many tackles for my liking to be a SS. I don't think he will be an overly productive in box defender at the next level.

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                  • Dee Dub
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 4652

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                    Vacarro misses to many tackles for my liking to be a SS. I don't think he will be an overly productive in box defender at the next level.
                    Well then he is in trouble because the other spot requires some cover and ball skills. I think at the next level he'll get bigger and stronger which may help him at SS.
                    Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                    1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23824

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                      If we go S in round 1 at 17 there is no excuse for that safety to start year one and us cut whoever he is replacing to free up cap room to address other weaknesses on the team. Other teams somehow start rookies in their secondaries without that rookie getting torched and picked on every game....why can't we?
                      Praise the Lord!!!! Absolutely!!!
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • BigRob
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1381

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        I saw many missed tackles with Vaccaro and personally think he is a FS only.

                        FYI Rambo didn't run and Reid ran an unofficial 4.53.

                        CB Rhodes ran an unofficial 4.41.

                        Swearinger 4.62.

                        Vaccaro 4.59.
                        What about Philip Thomas? What did he run?

                        Never mind, I see he ran a 4.62. I would have thought him to run faster. He's a good one.
                        Last edited by BigRob; 02-26-2013, 01:56 PM.
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                        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3937

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dee Dub
                          Well then he is in trouble because the other spot requires some cover and ball skills. I think at the next level he'll get bigger and stronger which may help him at SS.
                          The guys on the network are raving about his coverage skills. I'm personally not sold on him at #17. I don't think the drop off is that great in 2-3.

                          If S is a priority...I think there is better value with Reid in the 2nd than Vacarro in the 1st @ FS. I also like Cyprien & Elam in the 2nd @ SS.
                          Last edited by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY; 02-26-2013, 02:15 PM.

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                          • Mister Pittsburgh
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3674

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Praise the Lord!!!! Absolutely!!!
                            I see no point in having a defensive system that takes years to learn so you can be ranked #1, when others in the top 5 can plug and play pieces quickly, getting more years out of their players, and knowing what they really have when their contracts are up. Give me a top 10 defense if it frees up cap to make our offense top 10 as well. Maybe they should be the side of the ball that carries the team for once instead of riding the defenses coat tails.
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                            • Shawn
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15131

                              #15
                              Vaccaro is a safe pick, but not a spectacular pick. He isn't elite in any area but he is solid all around. He will be a productive starter, but doubt he makes many if any pro bowls. I would rather go for a guy with home run ability to rush the passer.
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