Ward says Steelers locker room in total disarray

[lloydroid]

The same Ben that made the shoe string/game saving tackle against the Colts in the divisional round of the playoffs? The tackle that negated a potentially game changing fumble by the aforementioned Jerome Bettis…

Yea that was folk hero status. No doubt. That was one play, albeit awesome. I am not saying Ben is the biggest problem, far from it. But he is not enough of a leader to pull this train. We saw what happened with the loss of leadership.

[SteelCrazy]

Originally Posted by SidSmythe

Hollywood and the media have mastered the art of taking an inch and the whole 9 yards along with it.

Watch a real boxing match and then watch a Rocky movie.

Again, your attempted assertion is a mystery. What is your point? That Ward's comments are akin to a real boxing match compared to a Rocky movie? Huh? I don't even understand your attempted point.

He simply means the media is over-exaggerating the story coming out of Pittburgh. Just as "Rocky" did with boxing.

[Shoe]

I disagree on two fronts: He is insightful and he was one HELL of a leader. Without Hines, and his push of the team to win a SB for Bettis, I don't think we even win that ring. Let's make no mistake: His criticisms of Ben are on the money. Ben is no leader. The team sees his actions, and his sideline words are for the cameras and they all know it.

I never said he wasn't a leader... I just said (along with 95) he was my favorite player. I'm just saying that Hines is not particularly sharp with his comments. On SNF (and interviews in general, when he was a player) he is a Captain Obvious type, who gave very little in terms of true insight. And as I said, he has a certain level of self-absorption (i.e. since he left, leadership fell off) that pretty much all professional athletes have.

As far as what you say he thinks of Ben, that's speculation on your part. Just like I would say Ben is a leader--it's my speculation.