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  • Mister Pittsburgh
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    Ike vs Lewis

    Not sure the cap ramifications if we cut Ike, but would you do so if it allowed us to keep Keenan Lewis? Would you attempt to trade Ike? Would you cut Troy if it freed up the money to keep Ike and Lewis?
    @_Hellgrammite
  • Chadman
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6537

    #2
    Not sure Lewis will be worth the money he'll command on the FA market. Promote Cortez, draft another CB.


    Just think if they'd locked up Lewis last off-season, instead of extending Brown last year. Then we'd have Lewis under contract in 2013, and Brown would be a RFA..
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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    • BradshawsHairdresser
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 7056

      #3
      Ike is due to make about $9.5 million in 2013...if I understand it correctly, even if they cut him before the season, he will still cost about $7 million vs. the cap. Don't see them cutting him this year.

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      • flippy
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 17088

        #4
        If the Steelers let Lewis go, it will be one of the biggest mistakes the team has ever made.

        Keenan and Cortez are the most promising young defenders we've got. No one can afford to allow young talent to get away.
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        • BradshawsHairdresser
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 7056

          #5
          Originally posted by flippy
          If the Steelers let Lewis go, it will be one of the biggest mistakes the team has ever made.

          Keenan and Cortez are the most promising young defenders we've got. No one can afford to allow young talent to get away.
          Problem is, the Steelers may not be able to afford to keep Lewis, what with all the big $ contracts they've taken on.

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          • Mister Pittsburgh
            Hall of Famer
            • Jul 2008
            • 3674

            #6
            Troy has to go, bottom line, in my mind. One of the best Steelers ever but we have to look at next season, not the past. We can't let Lewis walk.
            @_Hellgrammite

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            • Slapstick
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 0

              #7
              Originally posted by Chadman
              Just think if they'd locked up Lewis last off-season, instead of extending Brown last year. Then we'd have Lewis under contract in 2013, and Brown would be a RFA..
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              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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              • Chadman
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6537

                #8
                Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                Problem is, the Steelers may not be able to afford to keep Lewis, what with all the big $ contracts they've taken on.
                Agreed. As much as the Steelers would normally make sure that this was a player who doesn't slip the net, circumstances may not allow it this time around.

                The Steelers need to drop around $16m to get under the cap- but even if they do that without cutting anyone, they have 42 players on the roster. They need to find cap space for a further 11 players.
                The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                Light up the darkness.

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                • Chadman
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 6537

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Slapstick
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                  Too much?
                  The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                  Light up the darkness.

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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chadman


                    Too much?
                    You are in danger of encroaching on Lloydroid territory...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • Chadman
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6537

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Slapstick
                      You are in danger of encroaching on Lloydroid territory...
                      Then it's safe to say that the point is made.

                      Besides, we have draft stuff to chat about now..
                      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                      Light up the darkness.

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                      • flippy
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 17088

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chadman
                        Agreed. As much as the Steelers would normally make sure that this was a player who doesn't slip the net, circumstances may not allow it this time around.

                        The Steelers need to drop around $16m to get under the cap- but even if they do that without cutting anyone, they have 42 players on the roster. They need to find cap space for a further 11 players.
                        Not keeping young talent is a formula for disaster. There's an insane number of guys not getting past their rookie contract in Pittsburgh. Holmes, Wally(?), Mendy(?), Lewis(?). Add in other top draft picks not making an impact yet and you have to wonder what in the world is going on here?

                        The Steelers are on the verge of being a complete mess. At the same time, they could easily turn this around and be competitive.

                        I don't know what the problem is. I think it might be Rooney in Ireland. Colbert/Tomlin deserve their share of accountability.
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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          #13
                          Originally posted by flippy
                          Not keeping young talent is a formula for disaster. There's an insane number of guys not getting past their rookie contract in Pittsburgh. Holmes, Wally(?), Mendy(?), Lewis(?). Add in other top draft picks not making an impact yet and you have to wonder what in the world is going on here?

                          The Steelers are on the verge of being a complete mess. At the same time, they could easily turn this around and be competitive.

                          I don't know what the problem is. I think it might be Rooney in Ireland. Colbert/Tomlin deserve their share of accountability.
                          Or, it could be a matter of players being head cases (Holmes, Mendenhall) or overestimating their own value (Wallace)...
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 3938

                            #14
                            Taylor will make $9,454,166. If you cut him before June 1st, it creates $6,908,334 of dead money with a $2,545,832 cap savings. Personally, I don't think Ike is going anywhere.

                            The Steelers will have the ability to tender all their RFA and keep one of the three URFA below who will get attention.
                            Wallace
                            Lewis
                            Foster

                            Since it appears Wallace priced himself out, Lewis looks like the target. I don't believe they will pay Foster even close to what another team will offer. Retaining Lewis isn't a difficult task if they want to keep him. It may involve additional cuts but it should be a priority signing.

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                            • flippy
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 17088

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              Or, it could be a matter of players being head cases (Holmes, Mendenhall) or overestimating their own value (Wallace)...
                              Why are we drafting so many headcases?
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