Do The Steelers Lack Swagger?

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  • flippy
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    • Dec 2008
    • 17088

    Do The Steelers Lack Swagger?

    I know Ike T talks about his swaggin. But guys like Farrior and Ward had real swagger on the field. And it was infectious.

    Nothing got this team going like Hines taking a shot and popping up with a huge smile. And coming back at a guy to lay him out before he took another shot.

    Or James barking on the field and getting everyone livened up. And seeing one of the lightest guys on the field hitting like a ton of bricks was uplifting.

    This team has a lot of talented players in Ben, Heath, Troy, James, Timmy. But these guys are quiet, introverted, and just don't have a leadership gene in them. They each bring something to the table and in many ways are some of the most impressive players at their positions in the league. But I just don't see these guys lifting the play of those around them.

    Quite possibly the only guys we have with any semblance of leadership are Larry Foote, Willie Colon, and Ryan Clark. One's a small, weak, and slow MLB, the other can't get through a season healthy, and the latter is a FS that can't play the ball in the air.

    Maybe it's a question of guys giving everything they've got. And by everything I mean physically, mentally, and emotionally.

    This team has talent, but it's missing swagger. I hope Tomlin/Colbert figure this out and draft a little swagger come April.
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  • supersteeler
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2012
    • 1089

    #2
    What you do on the field creates swagger not what a player says. When your winning ball games on a consistent basis your automatically swaggin.
    Heath Miller is the quite swagger, his performance on the field says' it all.

    What we may be missing is the emotional leader, like when we had Joey Porter challenging Ray Lewis to get off the bus so he could kick his butt.

    New England doesn't come across as a team thats real vocal or emotional, they just score tons of points and they do it consistently year after year, thats what the Steelers really are missing....scoring points.
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    • flippy
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 17088

      #3
      Originally posted by supersteeler
      What you do on the field creates swagger not what a player says. When your winning ball games on a consistent basis your automatically swaggin.
      Heath Miller is the quite swagger, his performance on the field says' it all.

      What we may be missing is the emotional leader, like when we had Joey Porter challenging Ray Lewis to get off the bus so he could kick his butt.

      New England doesn't come across as a team thats real vocal or emotional, they just score tons of points and they do it consistently year after year, thats what the Steelers really are missing....scoring points.
      Heath's got 2 of the 3, but he might be the definition of emotionless. Our talented players are like zombies.

      On the same note, I hate a guy that is emotional but doesn't give 100%.

      The Pats haven't won a SuperBowl in a while either. They used to have some guys with swagger on D in Law, Seymore, and Harrison. They also haven't won a SuperBowl since they lost their swagger on D.

      We need a healthy Troy and Harrison to get an edge. Harrison lost some of his edge with all the Goodell fines. I do think Troy is capable of carrying the entire D if healthy. But he's on his own wavelength and playing in his own world.
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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #4
        Yes they lacked swagger last season.
        Trolls are people too.

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        • lloydroid
          Pro Bowler
          • Aug 2012
          • 2026

          #5
          Some would say, which comes first, the swagger or the wins? Some would argue you have to win to grow swagger. I think when you try to swag while losing, you come off looking like a fool or punk. And if you keep losing, your artificial swagg will soon disappear. You can't fake it. That is like when our WR turn all punk with the celebration of a first down. Grow up. That is weak stuff.

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          • BURGH86STEEL
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6921

            #6
            Originally posted by flippy
            I know Ike T talks about his swaggin. But guys like Farrior and Ward had real swagger on the field. And it was infectious.

            Nothing got this team going like Hines taking a shot and popping up with a huge smile. And coming back at a guy to lay him out before he took another shot.

            Or James barking on the field and getting everyone livened up. And seeing one of the lightest guys on the field hitting like a ton of bricks was uplifting.

            This team has a lot of talented players in Ben, Heath, Troy, James, Timmy. But these guys are quiet, introverted, and just don't have a leadership gene in them. They each bring something to the table and in many ways are some of the most impressive players at their positions in the league. But I just don't see these guys lifting the play of those around them.

            Quite possibly the only guys we have with any semblance of leadership are Larry Foote, Willie Colon, and Ryan Clark. One's a small, weak, and slow MLB, the other can't get through a season healthy, and the latter is a FS that can't play the ball in the air.

            Maybe it's a question of guys giving everything they've got. And by everything I mean physically, mentally, and emotionally.

            This team has talent, but it's missing swagger. I hope Tomlin/Colbert figure this out and draft a little swagger come April.
            Didn't the team have seasons that didn't live up to expectations with Ward and Farrior? Two realistic reasons why this team didn't live up to expectations were turnovers and injuries. Lack of swagger didn't have much to do with the losses this season.

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            • supersteeler
              Pro Bowler
              • Dec 2012
              • 1089

              #7
              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
              Didn't the team have seasons that didn't live up to expectations with Ward and Farrior? Two realistic reasons why this team didn't live up to expectations were turnovers and injuries. Lack of swagger didn't have much to do with the losses this season.
              No question!
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              • flippy
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 17088

                #8
                Maybe swagger is simply ability. I guess what I see missing here is a desire to achieve greatness. We've got the #1 ranked D in the league. But they played timid. There wasn't a lot of zest or attitude.

                Sure Farrior, Ward, Bussie, whoever played on bad teams that didn't have success. But those guys played violently every play. There was no sense of false bravado in their play. It was a genuine drive to be great.

                Maybe it's just perception. Maybe strip sacks, forced fumbles, violent hits, etc. seem like swagger?
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                • BradshawsHairdresser
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 7056

                  #9
                  I don't care if they have any swagger, as long as they do their jobs.

                  Some players who have swagger do a little dance, or flex their muscles, or preen for the cameras after seemingly any tackle, catch, or other play made. . .sometimes even if they're down by three touchdowns. Doesn't impress me at all.

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                  • supersteeler
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1089

                    #10
                    Troy should quit those head & shoulder commercials, and do these, sending the entire team some samples [url]http://advicesisters.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/swagger.jpg[/url] JK
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                    • Chadman
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                      • May 2008
                      • 6537

                      #11
                      Does swagger include taunting DB's as you get close to a TD?
                      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                      Light up the darkness.

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                      • flippy
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 17088

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                        I don't care if they have any swagger, as long as they do their jobs.

                        Some players who have swagger do a little dance, or flex their muscles, or preen for the cameras after seemingly any tackle, catch, or other play made. . .sometimes even if they're down by three touchdowns. Doesn't impress me at all.
                        That's not swagger. That's false bravado. That's more of an insecurity imho.
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                        • flippy
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                          • Dec 2008
                          • 17088

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chadman
                          Does swagger include taunting DB's as you get close to a TD?
                          Not at all. It's an attitude of confidence.
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                          • BradshawsHairdresser
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 7056

                            #14
                            Originally posted by flippy
                            That's not swagger. That's false bravado. That's more of an insecurity imho.
                            Oh, OK. Well then, I don't like false bravado.

                            I still don't care if they have swagger, as long as they do their jobs.

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