Robinson: Manti Te’o, Steelers could be perfect couple

[pfelix73]

Well, this video that's posted might give us some info. about someone else besides this discussion on Teo....

Ray Graham looks like a heck of a RB. And being he is already in Pittsburgh, they can looky looky all they want without any visits, etc..... This guy looks impressive in this ND game. Looks like he had a bad 40 time at the Combine. Maybe in the 6th round...

[feltdizz]

This was the first game Graham looked like he trusted his knee... I would take him in a heartbeat if he was there in the 5th

[Oviedo]

T'eo ran a 4.8 and 4.81 40 yards dash. Is he still in Round 1?

I've said all along that T'eo = Rey Malagua(sp?) from the Bumgals and USC. He had all the hype until after the draft and went in top of Round 2.

[flippy]

T'eo ran a 4.8 and 4.81 40 yards dash. Is he still in Round 1?

I've said all along that T'eo = Rey Malagua(sp?) from the Bumgals and USC. He had all the hype until after the draft and went in top of Round 2.

I think Larry Foote ran a 4.8. Another highly productive college player who was small and slow. I seriously see Foote in Teo. I think he can be a good solid player. But he should be a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.

[Dee Dub]

I think Larry Foote ran a 4.8. Another highly productive college player who was small and slow. I seriously see Foote in Teo. I think he can be a good solid player. But he should be a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.

I'd still take him in a heart-beat. He is a football player. And in my opinion he is way better than Larry Foote.

[Oviedo]

I think Larry Foote ran a 4.8. Another highly productive college player who was small and slow. I seriously see Foote in Teo. I think he can be a good solid player. But he should be a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.

I think he is firmly settling into Round 2.

He will probably end up like Paul Posluzny and Sean Lee--decent ILB but nothing special.

[Dee Dub]

I think he is firmly settling into Round 2.

He will probably end up like Paul Posluzny and Sean Lee--decent ILB but nothing special.

I disagree. I believe he will still go in the first round. You cannot deny what he did on the football field. And I believe he will be a special player in the NFL. But if you want to be gaga over guys who have great speed, and great work outs, but didnt do much on the field like Barkevious Mingo, cool.

[flippy]

I disagree. I believe he will still go in the first round. You cannot deny what he did on the football field. And I believe he will be a special player in the NFL. But if you want to be gaga over guys who have great speed, and great work outs, but didnt do much on the field like Barkevious Mingo, cool.

I think there's gotta be a balance between production and athleticism. Add in the mental and pain tolerance/threshold and some guys are gonna overcome deficiencies. But it's not so easy.

I do think Teo will go in round 1. I wouldn't pick him, but someone will. Denver took Tim Tebow in the first round. So someone's gonna take a chance on a kid with this much production and hype.

On the similar note, Tebow's supporters pointed to his production. And his detractors pointed to his arm.

I also see the NFL changing and think it would be better to have 2 ILBs with Timmons' skillset. I personally like Spence so much, that I'd be completely ok with sticking with Foote as a stop gap. See what Spence can do. And then draft an ILB next year depending on how Spence pans out.

[Dee Dub]

I think there's gotta be a balance between production and athleticism. Add in the mental and pain tolerance/threshold and some guys are gonna overcome deficiencies. But it's not so easy.

I do think Teo will go in round 1. I wouldn't pick him, but someone will. Denver took Tim Tebow in the first round. So someone's gonna take a chance on a kid with this much production and hype.

On the similar note, Tebow's supporters pointed to his production. And his detractors pointed to his arm.

I also see the NFL changing and think it would be better to have 2 ILBs with Timmons' skillset. I personally like Spence so much, that I'd be completely ok with sticking with Foote as a stop gap. See what Spence can do. And then draft an ILB next year depending on how Spence pans out.

Look at T'eo two years ago. They used him differently. He was attacking and coming forward. This year they had him drop in coverage more and he had 7 INT's but two years ago he had 13.5 tackles for loss. Think about that. He is lined up inside 7 yards off the line of scrimmage and he is getting 13.5 tackles for loss? That shows you he plays faster than he times and it shows football quickness. Same with Kevin Minter who had a eye popping 15 tackles for loss this past year. Instincts and quickness are far more important than front line speed for an ILB.

[lloydroid]

T'eo ran a 4.8 and 4.81 40 yards dash. Is he still in Round 1?

I've said all along that T'eo = Rey Malagua(sp?) from the Bumgals and USC. He had all the hype until after the draft and went in top of Round 2.

I agree with your assessment.

[flippy]

Look at T'eo two years ago. They used him differently. He was attacking and coming forward. This year they had him drop in coverage more and he had 7 INT's but two years ago he had 13.5 tackles for loss. Think about that. He is lined up inside 7 yards off the line of scrimmage and he is getting 13.5 tackles for loss? That shows you he plays faster than he times and it shows football quickness. Same with Kevin Minter who had a eye popping 15 tackles for loss this past year. Instincts and quickness are far more important than front line speed for an ILB.

I agree both of these guys will make it in the NFL and be good players. I'm just not convinced they're clears first round picks.

Both guys make plays on the field. No argument there. And the stats you point out support that. I'd be a lot more interested in both guys if we were talking about them as 2nd/3rd rounders.

[feltdizz]

Slow... small and shorter than ND listed him. He isnt first round and damn sure isnt pro bowl caliber.

[hawaiiansteel]

Ray Graham looks like a heck of a RB. And being he is already in Pittsburgh, they can looky looky all they want without any visits, etc..... This guy looks impressive in this ND game. Looks like he had a bad 40 time at the Combine. Maybe in the 6th round...

Graham to Steelers: 'Come and Get Me'



Ray Graham on the loose (DiNovo/USA TODAY Sports)

By Jim Wexell
SteelCityInsider.net
Posted Feb 23, 2013

INDIANAPOLIS – Ray Graham used to walk past the Steelers’ practice field, on his way to the Pitt practice field, and he’d sneak a peek – or three.

“Ray, get your nose on your own practice field!” Steelers coach Mike Tomlin would holler, and then in all seriousness Tomlin would add: “You’re not on this team!”

Tomlin would turn back to the reporters standing next to him along the Steelers’ sideline and chuckle.

“The guys who keep looking over here, who think they belong over here, those are the guys who do belong,” Tomlin said. “Shady was the same way. One time I walked in the training room and he was in the whirlpool with Willie Parker. I said, ‘Shady, get outta here.’”

LeSean “Shady” McCoy would look good in a Steelers uniform about now.

Hey, so would Dion Lewis.

LaRod Stephens-Howling anyone?

Yes, the Steelers, with three free agents and without a jettisoned Chris Rainey, are in a bind at running back. They could use any of the aforementioned Pitt men.

How about it, Ray?

“It’d be great,” said Graham. “I’ve been there and seen a lot of practices, so I felt like I’ve been a part of it already. I already visioned it.”

Graham was specific with his wording. He didn’t mean EN-vision. His emphasis was more akin to tunnel-vision.

“I’m always talking about vision,” Graham said. “That’s always the thing in the Bible. You’re supposed to have vision, vision that you put into reality. That’s why you dream big, man. I just think that, so, yeah, I believe it.

“I was on his field,” Graham continued. “I practiced on his field. So one day when I’m on his field again it’ll be second nature to me.”

So, Graham remembers Tomlin’s teasing?

“Oh, yeah,” Graham said with a chuckle. “He was always bothering me. Coach Mike, man, he’s a great guy. I get a kick out of Coach Mike. He’s a good dude. He knows how to turn it on. He knows how to motivate you.”

Graham has never been the type to need motivation. The half-brother of Rutgers linebacker prospect Khaseem Graham and son of former Purdue running back Raymond Graham loves the game, says “it’s where I can be free.” He even gives his moves names.

“I name them as I go,” Graham said. “I don’t really have a favorite move; I just like my chances one-on-one. I just think I’m going to get the best of you.”

Graham hopes to follow McCoy, Stephens-Howling and Lewis into the NFL, and succeed, as they are.

Graham, at 5-9, 199, fits right in with the group, size-wise, and statistically he finished ahead of all of them. Graham’s 3,271 rushing yards and 4,943 all-purpose yards both rank second in school history behind Tony Dorsett.

Graham showed up at the NFL Combine about 10 pounds over his playing weight last season, but just above the 197 he was playing at as a junior when he tore his right ACL eight weeks into the season.

He returned last year to rush for 1,042 yards, but a hamstring injury took him out of the Compass Bowl. Graham returned to play in the East-West Shrine Game, but fumbled on his first carry.

“Yeah, that killed me,” he said here Friday. “I felt bad, too, man, but you move on. That’s the only thing.”

Ball security isn’t an issue in scouts’ minds. They watched him closely the last four seasons. They saw him run inside with power, outside with speed, catch (98 receptions for 799 yards), and return kickoffs (38 at 22.1 avg.). They want to see something else this weekend.

“I know a lot of people doubt me,” Graham said. “They don’t know that I’m back yet. But I just want to let everybody know that I’m here to do everything, and I’m healthy, I’m feeling good, and I’m back.”

The Steelers already know plenty about Graham and haven’t talked to him here. He said he was getting an MRI during the bulk of his meeting night.

What about the MRI results?

“The MRI was good. I came in today and they said the knee’s looking good,” said the player who wants to be like Marshall Faulk more than anyone else.

But if McCoy (2nd round), Lewis (5th) and Stephens-Howling (7th) are the gauges, Graham can figure to be drafted anywhere from the third through fifth rounds.

Does he realize the Steelers are looking for a running back?

“Oh, yeah, definitely,” Graham said. “Come and get me.”

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[Chadman]

How did Ray Graham run a 4.8? Something's amiss with the RB combine 40 numbers- way too many 'slow' RB's that are meant to be quick RB's..

[pfelix73]

T'eo will be a starting ILB in the NFL, but only an average one. He isn't going to be an impact player. A few years from now, we will barely realize he is still in the league. He will probably be like a Rey Maualuga or so. Nothing special. Not worthy of a 17th pick over all. We need a pro bowl level player at that pick.

This is the kind of crap that I am tired of reading from you. In the future, how about if you put in there that this is your opinion, etc. Just how the F@#k do you know that he will not be a very good LB? The draft is a freaking CRAP SHOOT. None of us know who will be an all pro, etc.