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I find no issue with it being an anonymous quote. I think the real story is that it was said and that it was true. I am glad whoever said it did so. Fat boy took that giant contract and then offered almost no effort to continue to be productive. F him. No excuse for being that sloppy and fat when you are getting paid all that $ to offer production.
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Correct. Even before the big contract, Woodley was a slacker. His SOP was to enter the season out-of-shape. He would then play his way into shape, rounding into form in the second half of the season. But that way of doing business hasn't yielded the same kinds of results the past couple of years.Comment
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Yeah, but prior to that, he was always able to play himself into shape. And when he came on with his game, he piled up some seemingly impressive stats (ie., check out his sacks in the playoffs in 2007-2010--11 sacks in just 6 or 7 games!).
I worried when they offered him the big contract, because, along with the training and conditioning issues, I always felt LaMarr had been somewhat overrated, and was a little too one-dimensional...Sacks, IMO, can often be a misleading stat--a good number of Woodley's came when he was totally unblocked, or were coverage sacks, IIRC...LaMarr would disappear for stretches, miss tackles, and be too easily pushed out of plays too often to really be considered a top-flight OLB. Of course, I got considerable objection from some of my Steelers-fans friends when I voiced those concerns...Last edited by BradshawsHairdresser; 02-19-2013, 04:59 PM.Comment
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of course i realize that.
once again, was woodley forced to sign it?
sure he could have held out. i dont get the logic in 'he outperformed it'. no he didnt. he voluntarily signed a contract that he agreed with and then went on the field and played. he put forth an effort, that he was satisfied with giving, and got paid for the exact amount that he agreed to.steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clownComment
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Crazy offseason. We are all attacking one another like cats and dogs...snipey bitter fans, and now our players are all worthless bums. I got faith that Woodley will come back stronger than ever this year and get the job done after having his eyes opened a little and learning a lesson.@_HellgrammiteComment
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We still have a core of good players on this team, time for the young bucks to step up and eliminate the gloom and doom that's portrayed out there.
I think Lamar is just as disappointed with his play as we are, he was never 100% last season with his lingering injuries.
We can blame out of shape, too fat, or what ever, what I want to see is a healthy Lamar Woodley playing havoc on the opposition, otherwise it won't be fun watching that defense without Harrison here and a Woodley not 100%.
To his credit he started training early, and seems to be taking this serious. I'm sure he's been reading all the criticism of his play, should be great motivation to come back strong for 2013.
We need Lamar maybe more now than ever, lets all hope he gets it together.sigpicComment
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Completely agree. What Clark has done, and what Joe Anonymous has done, are different in that Clark has put his name to his comment. If Woodley, or anyone, has a beef about the comment- they know where to go.
This whole saga has proven that this team lacks discipline & leadership at the moment. There were obvious examples of lack of discipline throughout 2012- and this is just the next stage of ill-discipline. The Steelers need a giant boot up the bum, because regardless of the talent at hand, this lack of discipline, both on & off the field- will derail them again in 2013 if they don't get it sorted.
Dropped ball, lack of effort, lack of thought, dumb penalties. How many games were lost on that, and not on being beaten by a better team?
We can all blame injury- but injury hits every team. And heck- there could be some argument that lack of discipline off the field lead to injury increases in the squad.
Again- back to discipline.
And leadership.
Chadman doesn't care if the comments made about Woodley are right or not. What is important here is that someone broke rank, and chose to air their grievence away from the team- to the media- and obviously knew that this wouldn't sit well, so did all this under the security of 'anonimity'. But teams are built on trust. Discipline. Leadership. None of those things were in evidence when an unknown person attacks another member of his TEAM, publicly through the media. It's the equivalent of an on-field cheap shot.
So yes, bradshaw's hairdresser, Chadman sticks by his claim. Find who it is, and cut them. Whoever broke rank, does not have the Steelers TEAM at heart. If the Steelers FO show some leadership here, they might just get this team back on track in 2013.
IF... this comment came from the coaches, or higher, then that just shows that whoever said it has no idea how to build a team dynamic. And that is going to be a major problem so long as whoever said it is still at the Steelers.
And IF the 'unnamed source' is actually Ron Cook making crap up...well let's hope this bites him on his bum.The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?
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Larry Foote: Woodley criticism broke the code
Posted by Josh Alper on February 19, 2013
On Monday, we heard Steelers safety Ryan Clark say that criticisms of linebacker LaMarr Woodley’s work ethic from an anonymous teammate showed a “fracture” within the Steelers locker room.
Another veteran defensive player chimed in on Tuesday and agreed with Clark’s sentiment. Linebacker Larry Foote said he thought that blasting another member of the team publicly deviated from the way that the Steelers have conducted their business for a long time and wondered if the quote — “He was awful. He tells us he works out, but we didn’t see it. He wasn’t in shape. That has to be a reason why he was always hurt.” – actually came from one of the team’s coaches.
That fits with another more general report that the Steelers want to see Woodley work harder this offseason and would fit better with Foote’s notion that Steelers players don’t slam one another publicly.
“I mean there have been fights in the locker room, there’s been stuff on the airplane that never got out and that’s the Steeler way,” Foote said on 93.7 The Fan, via SteelersDepot.com. “So I’ll be very surprised if a player really did that and hopefully his name don’t come up, or if he was, he’s one of the players that’s no longer here. I mean, you’re breaking the code when you do that. You’re breaking the code.”
Foote said he thinks Woodley will rebound in 2013, although it’s up in the air whether Foote will be around to see it. He’s an unrestricted free agent this offseason and may not return to a Steeler team that’s said goodbye to several veterans in recent years. If he does go, it will be up to Clark and others to make sure the Steeler way continues to be one they think is worthy of the franchise.
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