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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    Sunshine Mock

    Sunny and high 70s must mean it is time for yet another mock draft

    Round 1: Zach Ertz, TE, 6’6” 252lbs, Stanford
    Round 2: Barrett Jones, OL, 6’5” 302lbs, Alabama
    Round 3: DJ Swearinger, S, 5’11” 210 lbs. South Carolina
    Round 4: Jonathan Bostic, ILB, 6’ 1” 245lbs, Florida
    Round 5: Ray Graham, RB 5’9” 192lbs, Pitt
    Round 6: Aaron Mellete, WR, 6’3” 216lbs, Elon
    Round 7: Collin Klein, QB, 6’ 5” 218lbs, K State
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"
  • supersteeler
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2012
    • 1089

    #2
    Another solid draft with good prospects, I have a TE in mine too. I think they pick one early either your pick or the kid from Notre Dame would be fine with me.
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    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 10287

      #3
      Hey Ov. Is this what you think they will do or what you would like?
      http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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      • lloydroid
        Pro Bowler
        • Aug 2012
        • 2026

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Sunny and high 70s must mean it is time for yet another mock draft

        Round 1: Zach Ertz, TE, 6’6” 252lbs, Stanford
        Round 2: Barrett Jones, OL, 6’5” 302lbs, Alabama
        Round 3: DJ Swearinger, S, 5’11” 210 lbs. South Carolina
        Round 4: Jonathan Bostic, ILB, 6’ 1” 245lbs, Florida
        Round 5: Ray Graham, RB 5’9” 192lbs, Pitt
        Round 6: Aaron Mellete, WR, 6’3” 216lbs, Elon
        Round 7: Collin Klein, QB, 6’ 5” 218lbs, K State
        If they take a TE in the 1st round, I am going to quit following them. The guy is supposed to be late first round material. Why would they take him at 17? We desperately need OLB, NT, CB, S, RB, WR help before we should go looking for a TE.

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        • SS Laser
          Pro Bowler
          • Apr 2009
          • 1929

          #5
          Originally posted by lloydroid
          If they take a TE in the 1st round, I am going to quit following them. The guy is supposed to be late first round material. Why would they take him at 17? We desperately need OLB, NT, CB, S, RB, WR help before we should go looking for a TE.
          Lets see if you can play civil. Maybe it would be a trade back? Or the Steelers an NFL coaches have him rated higher then the draft media does. It happens all the time. Players do get taken much higher then there draft media grade. I also would not be excited. But it could be a good time to get Millers replacement. Will Miller come back 100%?

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          • D Rock
            Hall of Famer
            • Dec 2008
            • 2797

            #6
            I don't care what they do, as long as they take a TE in the first round.

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            • Chadman
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 6537

              #7
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Sunny and high 70s must mean it is time for yet another mock draft

              Round 1: Zach Ertz, TE, 6’6” 252lbs, Stanford
              Round 2: Barrett Jones, OL, 6’5” 302lbs, Alabama
              Round 3: DJ Swearinger, S, 5’11” 210 lbs. South Carolina
              Round 4: Jonathan Bostic, ILB, 6’ 1” 245lbs, Florida
              Round 5: Ray Graham, RB 5’9” 192lbs, Pitt
              Round 6: Aaron Mellete, WR, 6’3” 216lbs, Elon
              Round 7: Collin Klein, QB, 6’ 5” 218lbs, K State

              Don't necessarily agree with the picks, but each one of them has merit. If that is what the Steelers came away with, it'd be hard to argue the result.
              The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

              Light up the darkness.

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              • Chadman
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6537

                #8
                Originally posted by D Rock
                I don't care what they do, as long as they take a TE in the first round.
                Chadman sees what you did there..
                The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                Light up the darkness.

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                • lloydroid
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 2026

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SS Laser
                  Lets see if you can play civil. Maybe it would be a trade back? Or the Steelers an NFL coaches have him rated higher then the draft media does. It happens all the time. Players do get taken much higher then there draft media grade. I also would not be excited. But it could be a good time to get Millers replacement. Will Miller come back 100%?
                  All that could be true, but my point is we have much more glaring needs than TE AND that it is quite common for later round - or even undrafted - TEs to do very well. Miller was worth taking with a first round, and it was a glaring need; now, TE is not our most glaring need, even IF Heath isn't 100% (which I feel it is likely he will be considering today's success with ACL surgeries). TE just isn't usually the most critical player. We have virtually no viable backs on the entire roster - not starting quality any how. And even though the passing game is much more dominant in today's game, your #1 RB is still crucial. Well, maybe your #1 and #2 are crucial, depending on your approach, but the point is, 40-some % of all of your plays is going to have the RB with his hands on the ball, so you better have some quality there, much more critical than a TE, especially in Pgh's system and philosophy. I am not saying RB should be taken in the first round, just that taking a TE #1, with this team with so many needs seems insane. Imagine if Harrison and Hampton are gone, which is very possible. Are they going to take a TE over those positions?

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                  • DukieBoy
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 3488

                    #10
                    Originally posted by D Rock
                    I don't care what they do, as long as they take a TE in the first round.
                    Maybe trade up and take a TE, be sure we get one.





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                    • flippy
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 17088

                      #11
                      I've been on board with getting another TE long before 2 TEs were in vogue. I think I've had a first round TE in at least one of my mock drafts every year.

                      I'd even argue it's one of our biggest needs. Specific positions don't matter as much as improving your team. 2 key areas need to improve. 1. Red Zone efficiency and 2. Pressuring the QB

                      Take the best players on the board that can help accomplish 1 and 2 and the draft will be a success. Heck, I'd be ok with drafting 2 TEs.
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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #12
                        Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        Hey Ov. Is this what you think they will do or what you would like?
                        What I would like. Come April, I'm sure they will enrich the defense early
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #13
                          Originally posted by flippy
                          I've been on board with getting another TE long before 2 TEs were in vogue. I think I've had a first round TE in at least one of my mock drafts every year.

                          I'd even argue it's one of our biggest needs. Specific positions don't matter as much as improving your team. 2 key areas need to improve. 1. Red Zone efficiency and 2. Pressuring the QB

                          Take the best players on the board that can help accomplish 1 and 2 and the draft will be a success. Heck, I'd be ok with drafting 2 TEs.

                          That was essentially my thinking. Everyone automatically equates receiver to WR. Not me. Who was our leading receiver last year? A player like Ertz or Eifert would be worth a Round 1 pick. Great if we can trade down but we talk that every year and it rarely happens. Both of the TEs mentioned would be impact players in Year 1. Isn't that what we want from a Round 1 pick?
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • Sugar
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3700

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            That was essentially my thinking. Everyone automatically equates receiver to WR. Not me. Who was our leading receiver last year? A player like Ertz or Eifert would be worth a Round 1 pick. Great if we can trade down but we talk that every year and it rarely happens. Both of the TEs mentioned would be impact players in Year 1. Isn't that what we want from a Round 1 pick?
                            Why yes, sir, it is!

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                            • lloydroid
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2026

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              That was essentially my thinking. Everyone automatically equates receiver to WR. Not me. Who was our leading receiver last year? A player like Ertz or Eifert would be worth a Round 1 pick. Great if we can trade down but we talk that every year and it rarely happens. Both of the TEs mentioned would be impact players in Year 1. Isn't that what we want from a Round 1 pick?

                              Hypothetically, let's say we do lose/not re-sign Starks, Hampton, Harrison, Wallace, Mendenhall, Colon, Lewis, which is certainly possible ALL could be the case. With that understanding, do you STILL go with TE in round 1? I understand the possible value of a play making TE, but imagine the larger holes we will have considering who we will be losing. I say take the absolute best possible producer but with the exception of QB, TE, C and that's about it. Every other position could be in play round 1. At 17, we could still nab a difference maker.

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