And With the 17th Overall Pick, the Steelers Choose....

[Dee Dub]

This kid was talking to a guy faking a female voice. Im sorry but this Teo kid has bust written all over him.

So this is what makes a player a bust now?

He is average physically and his instincts are suspect.

His performance on the field over the past 4 years does not reflect that. In fact it says the opposite.

[steelz09]

Here is Ogletree against Alabama...he had a big game against NFL talent.

[URL]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AZy_y0on4u8[/URL]

While his strength isn't thumping...he is electric...could even put him at OLB. Gotta love a linebacker that fast and athletic.

In a lot of those plays he's not even getting blocked. The guy is 6-3 232. Does he not know what a weight room is? The guy looks slightly bigger than a safety or even Cortez Allen.

He will get swallowed up by NFL o-lineman. No thanks... and we can't wait 3 years for him to develop. Te'o has the prototypical size of a linebacker that could start today.

[Shoe]

Not me. I'm not jaded by one game. I saw Te'o a lot over the past 4 years and he is better coming forward than Ogletree is. Olgetree is a great pursuit player but coming forward is a different story.

Yeah, I was banging the Te'o drum HARD before all this sh- came out. The reason I was, was the play-making ability he displayed at ND (e.g. 7 INT's as an ILB). This defense needs YOUNG talent all over, but above and beyond that, it needs PLAYMAKERS. I guy like Te'o would be a HUGE help right now. But I'm sorry... between now and April, something has to come up to change my mind about his CHARACTER. Otherwise, I don't touch him with a 10' pole.

[Oviedo]

In a lot of those plays he's not even getting blocked. The guy is 6-3 232. Does he not know what a weight room is? The guy looks slightly bigger than a safety or even Cortez Allen.

He will get swallowed up by NFL o-lineman. No thanks... and we can't wait 3 years for him to develop. Te'o has the prototypical size of a linebacker that could start today.

Waiting three years to develop is kinda standard on our defense which is why there are so many 30 somethings. LeBeau wouldn't have it any other way.

[phillyesq]

Waiting three years to develop is kinda standard on our defense which is why there are so many 30 somethings. LeBeau wouldn't have it any other way.

Woodley and Timmons contributed as rookies, but don't let facts cloud your rants.

[steelz09]

I'm also impressed with Kevin Minter. He's prototypical 3-4 ILB. Based on the videos I've been watching, he has some of the best read-and-react skills I've seen for an ILB in this draft. He shows good vision for the inside and the ability to work his way through the trash on the inside which is what Timmons had so much trouble with in years past.

[birtikidis]

I think that we go ILB in round two, taking Minter. I think Elam will be the pick in round one. I think he's a little bit of a reach, but we need a safety to develop. Don't think we're done there though. I think we may go with another safety in round 3. Rambo or whatever his name is at that point.

[hawaiiansteel]

I think that we go ILB in round two, taking Minter. I think Elam will be the pick in round one. I think he's a little bit of a reach, but we need a safety to develop. Don't think we're done there though. I think we may go with another safety in round 3. Rambo or whatever his name is at that point.

Minter won't be around when we pick in Round 2.

as for Rambo, he and Alex Ogletree were suspended for the first 4 games of this past season for marijuana use. I realize we drafted Mike Adams even though he was also a known pot smoker but after what happened with Ta'amu and Rainey this past season I believe both Rambo and Ogletree will be off our draft board.

[grotonsteel]

I think its going to be either NT or S or WR or TE.

This draft is loaded with O-linemen. They can get a good OG/OT in Rd 2- Rd 3.

[AkronSteel]

I think we go LB in the 1st either inside or outside. I think players like Ansah, Jordan, Te'o, Ogletree, Mingo, they are all in play for the Steelers and whoever Colbert and Tomlin like the best will be where they go. In rounds 2 and 3, I think the Steelers will find playmakers for #7 in the backfield and outside (Eddie Lacy and Robert Woods), those picks would make me happy. Add depth in the secondary and on the offensive line the rest of the way. This team is sorely lacking in quality depth, that's why injuries hurt so bad last season. The next man up wasn't good enough. The team also needs to find a young QB in my opinion to develop with Batch hanging onto a roster spot for one more season. Change is a coming folks, we'll see if Tomlin can develop talent now and if Colbert can continue to find it.

[feltdizz]

So this is what makes a player a bust now?



His performance on the field over the past 4 years does not reflect that. In fact it says the opposite.

Yes... a decent career turned into a Heisman run his senior year and most of it was due to his dying girlfriend and grandmother passing. The ND defense was horrible the last 5 years or so and I think the wrong guy got the credit for the turnaround due to an off field hoax.

The more I think about it this ND defense was down right horrible last year. Before this yeqr how many times did anyone hear Te'o's name as the leader of this amazing run stopoing D? ND's stats are tricky because they feasted on bad teams. Only 5 teams had winning records last year and this year I think they only played 4 teams who finished with winning records...

Nix is the real reason this D was so good this year IMO. Te'o is or should be a second rounder or 3rd rounder. I trupy believe he is getting the Quinn, Clausen type boost from the teams name. I will definitely eat crow if he shines at the next level because I think he will struggle to get off blocks and get exposed in coverage vs NFL speed. He showed good hands this year but the last 3? Nada...

[steelz09]

Minter won't be around when we pick in Round 2.

as for Rambo, he and Alex Ogletree were suspended for the first 4 games of this past season for marijuana use. I realize we drafted Mike Adams even though he was also a known pot smoker but after what happened with Ta'amu and Rainey this past season I believe both Rambo and Ogletree will be off our draft board.

Minter is rated as the #1 ILB on CBS' website

[Slapstick]

I think there is a better chance that Te'o is around in the 2nd as opposed to Minter...

If so, go for it!

[supersteeler]

We covered a lot of first round prospects and while I have my preference, I think the Steelers are going to go in another direction that not necessairly is a need position now but could be with our circumstances.

1. Keenan Lewis:

He'll test the market and probably get an offer that is better than what the Steelers can afford. While he had a good season I don't know if he's that top tier CB that is going to repeat his performance he had this season.

2. Cortez Allen showed he can play the position just as well so I think he'll be our starter in 2013 opposite Ike Taylor and the Steelers might draft a CB in round one.


3.In this pass happy league you can't have enough good CB's and beside that Ike is getting up there and we'll need to groom his replacement. Selecting a CB in the draft will be a more conducive to how the Steelers want to handle their cap situation by not overpaying Lewis and having more cash to sign others.


4. Good Corners are hard to get, the Steelers have a shot to get a good one in the first round, if they wait later in the draft most of the good ones will be gone. I know we need ILB and OLB but they probably can get one later in the rounds.

Any good ones we could draft?

Your thoughts on Xavier Rhodes or Johnathan Banks.

[Dee Dub]

Minter won't be around when we pick in Round 2.

as for Rambo, he and Alex Ogletree were suspended for the first 4 games of this past season for marijuana use. I realize we drafted Mike Adams even though he was also a known pot smoker but after what happened with Ta'amu and Rainey this past season I believe both Rambo and Ogletree will be off our draft board.

Right not with a first round pick but a later round pick I can see them wiling to take a risk on a guy like Rambo. Using a 3rd round pick has less of a risk/loss factor than using a first. But the reward/gain factor could be a major hall for them.