And With the 17th Overall Pick, the Steelers Choose....

[Dee Dub]

Doesn't make him a first round pick or worth one.

As I've said before, there is nothing about him that stands above what Ogletree, Minter, Khaseem Greene, or Arthur Brown brings to the table as MLB'ers.

Ogletree is the one MLB'er that has an amazing upside. He has character issues, so the Steelers probably will avoid him. But Ogletree might just be one of the top 3 MLB'ers in the league within 2 years.

I disagree with you. I think he is a first round pick and I would rather have him than Greene and Brown, two LB's who are not fits as ILB in a 3-4. Ogletree is a freak athletically no question about it but he comes with baggage and is not great coming forward versus the run. Point of attack. That is what the Steelers need next to Timmons.

I think Minter and Te'o are very comparable.

[Dee Dub]

That is what was so damning about the Alabama game. He knew where to be, just couldn't make the plays against the closest thing to an NFL team he faced all year.

I think we are now finding out there there was some pretty serious things on Manti Te'o's mind 3 days prior to this game.

[steelz09]

Te'o ... it's just a hunch.

[Dee Dub]

cmon Dub, do honestly believe this kid was so naive, he knew nothing about this and then continued to lie about this fake dead girlfriend? I'm not sure he can be an effective leader as you suggest. Some players will always think he made up the girlfriend to hide his sexuality.

Yes I do. He is a very rooted, religious, soft spoken, humble person. He believed in something that turned out to be a hoax. I am sure this hurt him and affected him more than the average person. To the point where at times he probably felt it was better to simply not tell or admit the truth. Hurt can cause some to be in denial. I think he was for a while.

But so be it. If this is the worst thing this kid ever does then big deal.

[Chadman]

Pretty much agree with Dee Dub in that if this is the absolute worst thing he ever does.... well, what's the problem? Outside of this.... scandal (which nobody really knows any 'truth' about- just a whole lot of suggestion & assumption)... has he done anything wrong?

Big Rob's argument amount being shown up by Alabama has some merit. Maybe Te'o isn't Junior Seau reborn. He was probably over-hyped, and now it looks like the reverse is happening. He didn't become a bad player based on one game anymore than Ben became Kordell Stewart based on the last few games of 2012. Te'os body of work is solid. For Chadman, the best comparison is Paul Poszluzny- he is solid in all aspects of the game without having that 'whoa' factor that a Willis or Timmons bring to the table. If that makes or does not make him a 1st rounder is yet to be determined.

He'll be heavily scrutinized at the Combine, and his Pro Day. Expect him to be the most interviewed player at the Combine.

He's not necessarily the player Chadman would pick, but if he was "the pick", Chadman wouldn't be looking for the nearest bridge to jump off, either.

[lloydroid]

OK, let me get this straight. We had the #1 D (yes, based in yards, yes we need more sacks and turnovers, but still, the D was NOT our main problem), and the 26th rated rushing attack, and we were 22nd in points scored....and drafting an overrated, lying (mental illness?) ILB in the first round makes the most sense?

Hellzzzz no. I say trade down, get an extra 2nd or 3rd, grab the BAP and RB Lacy. Our rush was laughable and a lot had to do with the OL, play calling and, at RB, a plodder (no way a legit NFL starting back), a midget (who isn't even on the team) and a fat, lazy guy, who has some talent but zero drive. Think we could use a RB to spark the offense? I like Lacy a lot.

[steelz09]

Not a bad option but:

#1 - Trading down isn't trivial

#2 - Avoid having to pick a RB and sign RFA Ivory

[Snatch98]

pfelix73 I dont think you are that far off. The kid doesn't do any spectacular but he does most everything well. And what makes him who he is and will be at the next level is...he's a football player.

This is all that will be required next to Timmons in the middle. I'd be fine with tanking Te'o at 17 as long as we aren't "reaching" and the Steelers don't really "reach" unless it's the end of the first round.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

if I had it my way, we would move back a few spots and grab Cordarelle Patterson, then move up a little in the 2nd for Eddie Lacy. Then take a chance on Bacarri Rambo in the 3rd. This team needs playmakers on both sides of the ball.

[Captain Lemming]

I wasn't looking for it, but the Couric show just happened to be on and I got to see it..

Dont lie, you have Katie on auto-record on TIVO every day.......then you watch "The View".

[steelblood]

Before all the hype he was a second rounder. He's not close to Kuechly who was chosen in the top 10 last year. He will be available to us at 17 and we will pass. He will end up going to the Ravens in the 20's. Just watch.

He's a bigger version of Lofa Tatupu.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say we either pick a CB/S, an OT, or a WR with the 17th pick.

I don't think you are out on a limb at all. I'd say DB, LT, and WR are three of our four top needs along with a pass rusher if we cut Harrison. RB will also be a need, but there is not much mid-1st round talent out there so that is unlikely. OG, TE, and ILB all depend on the health of current players and can be filled in subsequent rounds if need be.

[pfelix73]

Dont lie, you have Katie on auto-record on TIVO every day.......then you watch "The View".

LOL, well, what can I say... I got home early today and turned on the tv and there it was...lol, watched Judge Judy too...

[Sugar]

Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford

[Oviedo]

Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford

Eifert from Notre Dame is better but I would be happy with both picks. Today's NFL is about having more weapons on offense than the opponents can match up against

[Dee Dub]

OK, let me get this straight. We had the #1 D (yes, based in yards, yes we need more sacks and turnovers, but still, the D was NOT our main problem), and the 26th rated rushing attack, and we were 22nd in points scored....and drafting an overrated, lying (mental illness?) ILB in the first round makes the most sense?

I think your approach to this is worse than what Manti Te'o did. Since you don't have it straight let me explain it to you. First of all Manti Te'o never lied for personal gain. He lied because he was hurt and confused. And his lie didn't hurt anyone but himself. There is a difference. Here read it for yourself...

"Katie, put yourself in my situation. I, my whole world told me that she died on Sept. 12. Everybody knew that. This girl, who I committed myself to, died on Sept. 12," Te'o said in an interview that will air Thursday on Couric's talk show, "Katie". "Now I get a phone call on Dec. 6, saying that she's alive and then I'm going be put on national TV two days later. And to ask me about the same question. You know, what would you do?"

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000129939/article/manti-teo-i-lied-after-learning-of-lennay-kekua-hoax