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  • Dee Dub
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    Ben to Arizona Cardinals trade...would you do this?

    Arizona gives up its #1 this year (#6 overall), their second round pick this year (#38 overall), their number 1 next year, and CB Patrick Peterson.

    Arizona and Arians get their QB, they pair Ben with Fitzgerald, then sign Mike Wallace and Max Starks.

    And if you would pull this trigger who do you get to replace Ben at QB? Would it be through this draft? If so who?...and at what pick?

    I personally say..........no! But if they threw in their third round pick this year I may take a hard look at this..........or maybe not.

    Let's see..just for fun

    Steelers get

    CB Patrick Peterson
    OG Chance Warmack #6 overall 2013
    QB Matt Barkley #17 overall 2013
    ILB Kevin Minter #38 overall 2013
    RB Eddie Lacy #48 overall this year

    How does Barkley look to you now with Warmack, Pouncey, and DeCastro inside and a power running game of Eddie Lacy?


    and in 2014? Two number one's could land you Jadaveon Clowney? Who knows??
    Last edited by Dee Dub; 01-18-2013, 07:38 PM.
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  • SteelCrazy
    Legend
    • Aug 2008
    • 5049

    #2
    Originally posted by Dee Dub
    Arizona gives up its #1 this year (#6 overall), their second round pick this year (#38 overall), their number 1 next year, and CB Patrick Peterson.

    Arizona and Arians get their QB, they pair Ben with Fitzgerald, then sign Mike Wallace and Max Starks.

    And if you would pull this trigger who do you get to replace Ben at QB? Would it be through this draft? If so who?...and at what pick?

    I personally say..........no! But if they threw in their third round pick this year I may take a hard look at this..........or maybe not.

    Let's see..just for fun

    Steelers get

    CB Patrick Peterson
    OG Chance Warmack #6 overall 2013
    QB Matt Barkley #17 overall 2013
    ILB Kevin Minter #38 overall 2013
    RB Eddie Lacy #48 overall this year

    How does Barkley look to you now with Warmack, Pouncey, and DeCastro inside and a power running game of Eddie Lacy?


    and in 2014? Two number one's could land you Jadaveon Clowney? Who knows??
    No. I wouldnt trade Ben for the entire roster of the Arizona Cardinals + draft picks 1-7.
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    7. S

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #3
      Matt Barkley sucks. You need a QB to win in this league. That trade would turn the bottom feeding no QB Cardinals into a perennial contender and would send us back to the sucky 80's. no no no
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • fordfixer
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 10921

        #4
        Originally posted by Dee Dub
        Arizona gives up its #1 this year (#6 overall), their second round pick this year (#38 overall), their number 1 next year, and CB Patrick Peterson.

        Arizona and Arians get their QB, they pair Ben with Fitzgerald, then sign Mike Wallace and Max Starks.

        And if you would pull this trigger who do you get to replace Ben at QB? Would it be through this draft? If so who?...and at what pick?

        I personally say..........no! But if they threw in their third round pick this year I may take a hard look at this..........or maybe not.

        Let's see..just for fun

        Steelers get

        CB Patrick Peterson
        OG Chance Warmack #6 overall 2013
        QB Matt Barkley #17 overall 2013
        ILB Kevin Minter #38 overall 2013
        RB Eddie Lacy #48 overall this year

        How does Barkley look to you now with Warmack, Pouncey, and DeCastro inside and a power running game of Eddie Lacy?


        and in 2014? Two number one's could land you Jadaveon Clowney? Who knows??
        And we get the money to pay 2 #1 draft picks frommmmmmmm....................

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        • Mister Pittsburgh
          Hall of Famer
          • Jul 2008
          • 3674

          #5
          Would be an interesting deal. What's Ben have, 3 years left? Maybe if they had actually drafted and started grooming a QB like tons of us have called for the past couple years. If Geno Smith were guaranteed to be there at the 6th pick the Steelers would probably go for it since the love African American QB's so much.
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          • BigRob
            Pro Bowler
            • Jul 2008
            • 1381

            #6
            Originally posted by fordfixer
            And we get the money to pay 2 #1 draft picks frommmmmmmm....................
            This is a non-starter now with Rookie Wage limits in place after the new CBA. Go look at what Cam Newton and Andrew Luck got paid compared to Mathew Stafford.

            It was negligible. Compared to Stafford.

            As to trading Ben. No, No, and double heck no. If they were going to trade him, it would have been at the 2010 draft after the Georgia Incident came out.
            Here comes the BOOM!
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            • SS Laser
              Pro Bowler
              • Apr 2009
              • 1929

              #7
              Yes I would do it for that haul. But can not see any team giving up that much for one player even Ben. Also DO NOT like or want Barkley. Other then that nice way to BLOW up the team an start over. Not sure what to do about a QB in this situation. I guess a stop gap FA. Matt Moore maybe. Maybe I would not like this after looking at it more. But Loyd would be happy.

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              • supersteeler
                Pro Bowler
                • Dec 2012
                • 1089

                #8
                We don't need another Kent Graham here to put us in the cellar for years to come, Nah, I'll stick with Ben.
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                • BradshawsHairdresser
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 7056

                  #9
                  It's too hard to get another great QB. A big NO to this deal.

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                  • Snatch98
                    Pro Bowler
                    • May 2008
                    • 1451

                    #10
                    I'd be intrigued because that's one hell of a haul and we could revamp the roster. However Ben isn't over the hill. I believe that our line will continue to improve and we'll get another 4 or 5 years out of Ben AT LEAST. He hasn't had any "major" football related injuries that would effect the way he plays long term. He just needs to get less "banged around" injuries by improving our line play. He's a top 5 QB when healthy so while intriguing, no way do I make this deal.

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                    • Dee Dub
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4652

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      Matt Barkley sucks. You need a QB to win in this league. That trade would turn the bottom feeding no QB Cardinals into a perennial contender and would send us back to the sucky 80's. no no no
                      Why do you say Barkley sucks? I dont think he sucks he isnt as great as the hype about him prior to this year but I hardly think he sucks. A 4 year starter who has a solid accurate arm. Put him in a power running game offense and I think he could manage the offense well enough to win. Remember even though he had some great receivers to throw to for most of his 4 years he played on a team that had restrictions levied on the number of scholarships they could give.

                      115 career TD's to 48 INT's, over 11,000 yards passing, a near 65% completion percentage, and having only been sacked 55 times over 4 years? Man I'd like to suck like that. And this was not in any gimmick offense. This was in a pro-style set.
                      Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                      1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                      • Dee Dub
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4652

                        #12
                        Patrick Peterson is as close as shut down corner as there is in the league...
                        Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                        1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                        • 7 UP
                          Starter
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 878

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                          No. I wouldnt trade Ben for the entire roster of the Arizona Cardinals + draft picks 1-7.
                          This about sums it up.

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                          • Shawn
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 15131

                            #14
                            It would be tempting because I don't think Ben has many healthy seasons left in him.
                            Trolls are people too.

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                            • Dee Dub
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 4652

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              It would be tempting because I don't think Ben has many healthy seasons left in him.
                              And not only that...but A.J. McCarron comes out next year. He can run a power offense.
                              Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                              1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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