Steelers 2012: Lawyers Gone Mad

[Slapstick]

Really Crash? You want to go back to the first game of the season? No mention of the two INTs BB threw in the must win games?

Ya know what...I will speak your language. You make No mention of the INT in the Denver game that was returned for a TD with over 2 minutes left. It was 25-19 & Steelers had the ball. The Steelers did give up 3 drives....There was a 2 play 80 yard drive that was Thomas's 71 yard TD. Did you look at a drive comparison between the two teams?

Denver Drives: 2 punts, 1 fumble, 1 FG, and 3 TDs
Steeler Drives: 3 punts, 1 INT(TD), 1 TO on downs, 2 FGs, and 2 TDs

You know what the difference was in the game? Do you really have to be told even though you have the stats and watched the game?

BB was 22/40 245 2/1(For TD) 5 sacks for 36 yards
Manning was 19/26 253 2/0 2 sacks for 13

That is all you need to know. It was QB versus QB and BB didn't get it done. These games are going to happen if you are a contender.

I showed 6 losses above and the Steelers were only winning 1 at the start of the 4th. Tight games are always going to change hands in the 4th. Don't know where you are trying to go with your "blown 4th Qtr leads". That is an elastic stat that is meaningless unless you expand on it. If your statement is going to be the Steelers lost 4th Qtr leads of 2-3 posession margins that would be a concern. How many times can a lead change happen in the 4th if the margin is within a TD or FG? That is ridiculous. Steelers up by one and someone kicks a FG in the 4th and "OMFG they blew a 4th Qtr lead!" SB hangover year that was a concern...Not in 2012. If you are in a 1 posession game in the forth Qtr & you lose the lead it isn't a "blown lead' it is a game. Here's a theory you should chew on....If the offense scores more points OR moves the chains and keeps the ball out of their hands OR doesn't tun the ball over.....they won't be able to take the lead.

DL will take the heat when he deserves if....Just wasn't this year. I took him off high and put him on simmer on the back burner. I will jump back on him without hesitation.

JPN - It's a waste of time and energy...

[Crash]

JPN - It's a waste of time and energy...

Says the guy who reads box scores.

Just go back to what I said in the summer BEFORE we even played Denver:

[fordfixer]

Ya know what...I will speak your language.

That's gotta hurt lowering yourself to that level

[Crash]

Actually it smartens him up.

Just like all you experts who thought I was nuts when I said Pouncey at guard would be a good thing.

Now go watch that Ravens game again. That was probably the best game the OL had all year.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Yes, the Steelers defense blew ass and the Broncos didn't.

The Steelers defense on THREE DIFFERENT occasions gave up TDs following our own scores.

That's where the game was lost. Can't blame Ben for not saving their ass again, sooner or later the defense has to make a play. The way American football works is you score, but unless the returner fumbles the kick or it's an onside kick? The defense has to go on the field.

[/COLOR]They can't be protected on the sideline all day.

You should look closer.

DEN PUNT
PIT PUNT (Missed Opportunity)
DEN FUMBLE Recovered by PIT at DEN 49
PIT PUNT (Missed Opportunity)
DEN PUNT
PIT FG (How about a TD)
DEN TD
PIT TD
HALF
PIT FG (How about a TD)
DEN TD
PIT TD
DEN TD
PIT PUNT (Missed Opportunity)
DEN FG
PIT INT FOR TD (That's Game!)
PIT T/O ON DOWNS
DEN Kneel on it.

Seems to be the Steelers Offense was the ones who needed to make a play and failed...But BB made a play for the Broncos that day! FGs wasn't going to win the game that day. If your defense gets a TO and gives you the ball 3 times with a goose egg on the scoreboard and you come away with 3 points...It is on offense. If you want to match their TDs with FGs it is on the offense. Last & most importantly...If you want to throw a pick 6 when you are down by 6 with over 2 minutes to go...It is on the BB.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

That's gotta hurt lowering yourself to that level

I did feel a little burn in the loin. Dammit Crash!

[Crash]

You are right, the offense did fail.

They didn't save the defense again in a big game. But as soon as the defense plays a good game against some scrub the Jimmy Pol music's playing and the IC beer is flowing like Niagra Falls.

That game was only close for one reason, the defense couldn't get of the field after we would score ourselves.

Just like in Oakland.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Actually it smartens him up.

Just like all you experts who thought I was nuts when I said Pouncey at guard would be a good thing.

Now go watch that Ravens game again. That was probably the best game the OL had all year.

I will forget more than you will ever know when it comes to football and I haven't forgotten anything yet.

[Crash]

If you want to match their TDs with FGs it is on the offense.

Then how in the flying ..... can you blame the offense for ANYTHING that happened in Oakland?

THREE TIMES, the offense scored TDs.....

THREE TIMES, the defense gave a TD back.....

The offense did exactly what you wanted.

And you STILL give LeBeau a free pass.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Then how in the flying ..... can you blame the offense for ANYTHING that happened in Oakland?

THREE TIMES, the offense scored TDs.....

THREE TIMES, the defense gave a TD back.....

The offense did exactly what you wanted.

And you STILL give LeBeau a free pass.


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Are we looking for an instance where you could blame DL? Are we hitting every game with a microscope until we find it?

I guess you didn't read my breakdowns. BB had a great game. The passing offense was productive. The defense gave up that 64 yard run to McFadden early but on the day the Raiders rushed for 119. The Raiders passing game was efficient but only 202 yards. Again, turnovers & mistakes. AB gets a punt return called back on a penalty in the 2nd, Dwyer fumbles at their own 31 in the 2nd, and Antonio Brown fumbles at the Raiders 36 in the 4th. Wouldn't you put the game on those mistakes before anything?

[Crash]

Are we looking for an instance where you could blame DL? Are we hitting every game with a microscope until we find it?

I guess you didn't read my breakdowns. BB had a great game. The passing offense was productive. The defense gave up that 64 yard run to McFadden early but on the day the Raiders rushed for 119. The Raiders passing game was efficient but only 202 yards. Again, turnovers & mistakes. AB gets a punt return called back on a penalty in the 2nd, Dwyer fumbles at their own 31 in the 2nd, and Antonio Brown fumbles at the Raiders 36 in the 4th. Wouldn't you put the game on those mistakes before anything?

No, I would put the game on the fact that in their last 5 possessions on the field to a washed up, has been, no hoping bozo like Carson Palmer this alleged "#1 ranked" defense gave up 27 points in 5 drives.

If you can't blame the defense for that game? You'll never blame them for ANYTHING.

[supersteeler]

The problems we had this year have to be shared by all units. All I know we lost 5 games by three points, win two of those any we play in the post season.
The defense had their issue's earlier in the season but came on and put us in position to win games but the offense couldn't generate points, and when we had good field position in many games on returns we had penalties that negated them.
Combine that with drops by our receivers killing drives the unbelieveable 7 fumbles in Cleveland, the injuries and so on, no wonder we are sitting at home.


Its frustrating for all of us, but the game that really pissed me off was when we played San Diego@ Home BTW, the Steelers flat out wern't ready to play that game, I guess they left all their plays and emotion in Baltimore when Batch beat the Rats.

[feltdizz]

So... The D sucked against the Raiders. I can buy that but I remember the I giving them short fields as well. What about the second half of the season? The O was horrible. Every game where we needed a last minute drive ended with an INTo besides the Philly game.

If this season was lost by the D then we will never make the playoffs again because anytime we did get a TO the O floundered... except for the game vs the Giants.

[Crash]

So... The D sucked against the Raiders. I can buy that but I remember the I giving them short fields as well.

They gave then ONE short field after Brown's fumble.

Don't you read? THREE TIMES we scored touchdowns.

THREE TIMES the defense gave a TD back.

If that doesn't blame this defense, nothing will.

[Crash]

If this season was lost by the D then we will never make the playoffs again because anytime we did get a TO the O floundered... except for the game vs the Giants.

How many drives did the offense get to start on the opponent side of the field because of a turnover forced all season?