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  • Chadman
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6537

    #46
    Next thing we'll do is look at some of the Steelers Free Agents, and what we might expect as far as contract offers coming to them.

    Firstly, given that the Salary Cap will experience no significant increase, it is safe to suggest that contract values will not rise dramatically in 2013. Roughly what the #1 CB on the market last year should equate to what the #1 CB on the market this year gets.

    Secondly, the Steelers are in no position to sign their FA's before FA begins. This means that each player entering UFA will likely find the value of their services dictated from outside the organisation- or 'market forces'. Praying for 'hometown discounts' might be pie in the sky.

    Chadman will use the Walter Football "star ratings" to give a rough estimation, based on last season, on what our FA's might expect to recieve on the market:


    CB Keenan Lewis (27yo)- At 27 years old, he's going to be a valued commodity. Walters gives Lewis 4 stars. Last season, both Brandon Carr (26yo) & Cortland Finnegan (28yo) were 4 star CB's. Both recieved 5 year $50m contracts. Lewis could realistically expect something in & around that figure.

    Chadman estimate- 5 year, $50-$55m

    WR Mike Wallace (27yo)- The 2 players we can use as a guide for Wallace are probably Desean Jackson & Laurent Robinson. If this was last season, the value of Jackson's contract would likely have been a touch lower than Wallace, but given events of 2012, we'll assume that Jackson is the highest contract area for Wallace, while Robinson the lowest point- based on age & productivity. Robinson signed a 5 year $32.5m contract for a guy that has a significantly thinner portfolio than Wallace, while Jackson signed a 5 year $51m contract. This is more likely the area Wallace will be looking.

    Chadman estimate- 5 year $45-$55m

    Ramon Foster (27yo)- The best examples for comparison to Foster might be Mike Brisiel who signed with the Raiders & Evan Mathis who re-signed with the Eagles. Both are slightly older than Foster is, so it might be safe to assume he'll be on the higher side of the comparison. Brisiel (who is inferior to Foster) signed a 5 year $20m contract to change teams, Mathis recieved a 5 year $25m to stay put. Expect Foster to get around that mark to switch teams.

    Chadman estimate- 5 year $25m

    Rashard Mendenhall (26yo)- Mendenhall is a funny one because injury might severely effect his contract numbers. The comparison players from last year will be Seattle's Marshawn Lynch & Chicago's Michael Bush. Lynch (superior to Mendy) got 4 years $32m, while Bush was signed with 4 years $14m. Mendenhall is likely more in the Bush range at this point. That said- he might be best served signing a short deal, proving himself, and looking for a bigger payday later.

    Chadman estimate- 3 year $9m

    Larry Foote (33yo)- Chadman's comparison for Foote is slightly different, in that the guys we'll compare Foote with are...less successful in FA, James Farrior & Keyaron Fox. Both struggled to garner much interest in FA, and Chadman expects Foote to be in a similar spot.

    Chadman estimate- 1 year Vet Min

    Max Starks (31yo)- Max will be compared to 2 OT's that sit younger than him in age- Breno Giacomini & Guy Whimper- both moderate level OT's that were marginal starting options for their teams. Giacomini got 2 years $6m while Whimper got 2 years $5m. Chadman believes Starks sit's slightly higher than both of these guys & will be valued accordingly. That said, there has been no real market for Max every year he has been a FA.

    Chadman estimate- 3 years $8-$10m
    That covers the main Steeler FA's. The rest should not generate that much FA interest- certainly not enough to cause the Steelers to scramble & sign them anyway.

    Chances of keeping most of the FA's is very slim. Even if they WANT to keep Lewis, chances are the market will make this an enormous challenge. The Steelers might actually be better off targetting keeping Foote & Starks, given the cap situation.
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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    • Chadman
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 6537

      #47
      2013 NFL FREE AGENTS: QB

      Derek Anderson (Panthers)
      Charlie Batch (Steelers)
      Matt Blanchard (Bears) RESIGNED- BEARS
      Jason Campbell (Bears)
      David Carr (Giants)
      Kellen Clemons (Rams)
      BJ Coleman (Packers) RESIGNED- PACKERS
      Chase Daniel (Saints)
      Dennis Dixon (Ravens) SIGNED EAGLES
      Joe Flacco (Ravens) RESIGNED- RAVENS
      Bruce Gradkowski (Bengals)
      Rex Grossman (Redskins)
      Tarvaris Jackson (Bills) RESIGNED- BILLS
      Mike Kafka (Eagles) SIGNED- PATRIOTS
      G.J. Kinne (Jets) SIGNED- EAGLES
      Byron Leftwich (Steelers)
      Matt Leinart (Raiders)
      Josh McCown (Bears)
      Luke McCown (Falcons)
      Matt Moore (Dolphins)
      Curtis Painter (Ravens) SIGNED- GIANTS
      Jordan Palmer (Jaguars)
      Brady Quinn (Chiefs)
      Drew Stanton (Colts)
      Tyler Thigpen (Bills)
      John Parker Wilson (Jaguars) SIGNED- STEELERS
      Last edited by Chadman; 03-03-2013, 11:20 AM.
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      • Chadman
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 6537

        #48
        2012 NFL FREE AGENTS: RB

        Alvester Alexander (Titans)- SIGNED COLTS
        Jackie Battle (Chargers)
        Cedric Benson (Packers)
        Ahmad Bradshaw (Giants) CUT
        Ronnie Brown (Chargers)
        Zachary Brown (Bills) RESIGNED- BILLS
        Reggie Bush (Dolphins)
        James Casey (Texans)
        Shaun Chapas (Lions)
        Tashard Choice (Bills)
        Derrick Coleman (Seahawks) RESIGNED SEAHAWKS
        Mike Cox (Falcons)
        Jerome Felton (Vikings)
        Justin Forsett (Texans)
        Mike Goodson (Raiders)
        Ryan Grant (Packers)
        Shonn Green (Jets)
        DuJuan Harris (Packers)
        Jerome Harrison (Lions)
        Lex Hilliard (Jets)
        Peyton Hillis (Chiefs)
        Brandon Jackson (Browns)
        Steven Jackson (Rams)
        Rashard Jennings (Jaguars)
        Quinn Johnson (Titans)
        Felix Jones (Cowboys)
        Greg Jones (Jaguars)
        Spencer Larson (Patriots) CUT
        Brian Leonard (Bengals)
        Stefan Logan (Lions)
        Corey McIntyre (Bills)
        Rashard Mendenhall (Steelers)
        Lonyae Miller (Cowboys)- SIGNED RAVENS
        Mewelde Moore (Colts)
        Jalen Parmale (Jaguars)
        Chris Rainey (Steelers)
        Darius Reynaud (Titans)
        Javon Ringer (Titans)
        Bernard Scott (Bengals)
        E. Alex Smith (Browns)
        Kevin Smith (Lions)
        LaRod Stephens-Howling (Cardinals)
        Danny Woodhead (Patriots)
        Last edited by Chadman; 03-03-2013, 11:23 AM.
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        • Chadman
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6537

          #49
          2012 NFL FREE AGENTS: WR

          Danny Amendola (Rams)
          Joe Anderson (Bears)
          Emmanuel Arceneaux (Redskins) SIGNED JETS
          Devin Aromashodu (Vikings)
          Donnie Avery (Colts)
          Ramses Barden (Giants)
          Dwayne Bowe (Chiefs)
          Deion Branch (Patriots)
          Steve Breaston (Chiefs) CUT
          Plaxico Burress (Steelers)
          Austin Collie (Colts)
          Joshua Cribbs (Browns)
          Drew Davis (Falcons)
          Donald Driver (Packers)
          Julian Endelman (Patriots)
          Brandon Gibson (Rams)
          Mardy Gilyard (Jets) SIGNED CHIEFS
          Ted Ginn Jnr (49ers)
          Derek Hagan (Raiders)
          Brian Hartline (Dolphins)
          Devery Henderson (Saints)
          Dominik Hixon (Giants)
          Greg Jennings (Packers)
          Johnny Knox (Bears) RETIRED
          Ruvell Martin (Bills)
          Mohamed Massaquoi (Browns)
          Randy Moss (49ers)
          Louis Murphy (Panthers)
          Kevin Ogletree (Cowboys)
          Kassim Osgood (Lions)
          Roscoe Parrish (Buccaneers)
          Chaz Schilens (Jets)
          Jerome Simpson (Vikings)
          Steve Smith (Rams)
          Brandon Stokley (Broncos)
          Sammie Stroughter (Buccaneers)
          Brandon Tate (Bengals)
          Tim Toone (Falcons)
          Mike Wallace (Steelers)
          Matt Willis (Broncos)
          Titus Young (Lions)- Released - Claimed off Waivers- Rams - CUT RAMS
          Last edited by Chadman; 03-03-2013, 11:28 AM.
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          • Chadman
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6537

            #50
            2012 NFL FREE AGENTS: TE

            Billy Bajema (Ravens)
            Josh Baker (Jets) CUT
            Garry Barnidge (Panthers)
            Travis Beckum (Giants)
            Martellus Bennett (Giants)
            Kevin Boss (Chiefs) CUT
            Dallas Clark (Buccaneers)
            Chase Coffman (Falcons)
            Jared Cook (Titans)
            Chris Cooley (Redskins)
            Fred Davis (Redskins)
            Anthony Fasano (Dolphins)
            Tony Gonzales (Falcons)
            Clark Harris (Bengals)
            Ben Harstock (Panthers)
            Will Heller (Lions)
            Dustin Keller (Jets)
            Cameron Morrah (Seahawks)
            Brandon Myers (Raiders)
            Jake O'Connell (Chiefs)
            John Phillips (Cowboys)
            Leonard Pope (Steelers)
            Richard Quinn (Bengals)
            Dante Rosario (Chargers)
            Martin Rucker (Chiefs)
            David Thomas (Saints) CUT
            Delanie Walker (49ers)
            Ben Watson (Browns)
            Last edited by Chadman; 03-03-2013, 11:30 AM.
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            • SS Laser
              Pro Bowler
              • Apr 2009
              • 1929

              #51
              Thanks Chadman for another great thread. I appreciate the work that goes into this thread.

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              • lloydroid
                Pro Bowler
                • Aug 2012
                • 2026

                #52
                Originally posted by SS Laser
                Thanks Chadman for another great thread. I appreciate the work that goes into this thread.
                Work? More like 20 years of hard labor in a fed pen. Heck, I run out of breath just trying to _READ_ it! It's more lengthy than the King James Bible.

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #53
                  Originally posted by lloydroid
                  Work? More like 20 years of hard labor in a fed pen. Heck, I run out of breath just trying to _READ_ it! It's more lengthy than the King James Bible.
                  Sorry that you have so many problems with reading...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • BigRob
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1381

                    #54
                    Originally posted by lloydroid
                    Work? More like 20 years of hard labor in a fed pen. Heck, I run out of breath just trying to _READ_ it! It's more lengthy than the King James Bible.
                    You are hereby banned for Ad Hominy attacks. Begone grits eater!
                    Here comes the BOOM!
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                    • fordfixer
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 10931

                      #55
                      Good stuff thanks chadman

                      Molon labe

                      People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell

                      ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
                      Mike Tomlin

                      American metal pimped by asiansteel
                      Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you 1. Jesus Christ, 2.The American G.I., One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

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                      • Eddie Spaghetti
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4123

                        #56
                        eddie always looks forward to this chadman. Thanks for taking the time to put it together.

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                          eddie always looks forward to this chadman. Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
                          Ruthless applauds Eddie's use of the third person when responding to Chadman.
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • lloydroid
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 2026

                            #58
                            Originally posted by BigRob
                            You are hereby banned for Ad Hominy attacks. Begone grits eater!
                            I ain't the one with the giant gut.

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 35651

                              #59
                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              Ruthless applauds Eddie's use of the third person when responding to Chadman.
                              Hawaiiansteel agrees with Ruthless' applauding Eddie's use of the third person when responding to Chadman.

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                              • fordfixer
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 10931

                                #60
                                Originally posted by lloydroid
                                Work? More like 20 years of hard labor in a fed pen. Heck, I run out of breath just trying to _READ_ it! It's more lengthy than the King James Bible.
                                So you are so out of shape that you ran out of breath - reading - but you rag on Tomlin for putting on some weight
                                Last edited by fordfixer; 01-19-2013, 07:13 PM.

                                Molon labe

                                People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell

                                ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
                                Mike Tomlin

                                American metal pimped by asiansteel
                                Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you 1. Jesus Christ, 2.The American G.I., One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

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