Your thoughts on Woodley please?

[pittpete]

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4224/lamarr-woodley"]LaMarr Woodley[/URL]
8/5/2011: Signed a six-year, $61.5 million contract. The deal contains $22.5 million guaranteed, including a $13 million signing bonus, first-year "option" bonus of $4.4 million, and Woodley's first-year base salary.
2012: $700,000 (+ $8.2 million "signing" bonus),
2013: $9 million,
2014: $8 million,
2015: $8.5 million,
2016: $9 million,
2017: Free Agent

4 Sacks
1 INT
1 Forced Fumble
1 Fumble Recovery

Lot of $$$ due to Mr. Woodley this upcoming year
2nd year in a row he has dealt with injuries and the $$$ he will be due just isnt worth the stats.
Is this a sign of the times for him?
Anyone think the Steelers ask him to take a paycut?
Lets face it, if the Steelers cant get any pressure on the other side then Woodley is pretty much screwed.
With the chance that Harrison won't be back and Worilds proven hes better on the right, what do you see happening?
Discuss

[BigRob]

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4224/lamarr-woodley"]LaMarr Woodley[/URL]
8/5/2011: Signed a six-year, $61.5 million contract. The deal contains $22.5 million guaranteed, including a $13 million signing bonus, first-year "option" bonus of $4.4 million, and Woodley's first-year base salary.
2012: $700,000 (+ $8.2 million "signing" bonus),
2013: $9 million,
2014: $8 million,
2015: $8.5 million,
2016: $9 million,
2017: Free Agent

4 Sacks
1 INT
1 Forced Fumble
1 Fumble Recovery

Lot of $$$ due to Mr. Woodley this upcoming year
2nd year in a row he has dealt with injuries and the $$$ he will be due just isnt worth the stas.
Is this a sign of the times for him?
Anyone think the Steelers ask him to take a paycut?
Lets face it, if the Steelers cant get any pressure on the other side then Woodley is pretty much screwed.
With the chance that Harrison won't be back and Worilds proven hes better on the right, what do you see happening?
Discuss

It just all depends on what the front office thinks. If James Harrison agrees to be cut and re-sign at a very low contract. Maybe they look at cutting Gildon-Woodley.

However, I think perhaps this is the year Woodley gets serious about his conditioning as he needs to be and comes back with a 15 sack season.

I am hoping that Harrison gets cut and comes back at a very reasonable contract. Woodley/Harrison/Worilds is better than no Harrison.

[pittpete]

However, I think perhaps this is the year Woodley gets serious about his conditioning as he needs to be and comes back with a 15 sack season.

That would be so kind of Gildley after signing that huge contract.

[lloydroid]

I honestly am leaning towards cutting him. He isn't putting in enough effort to justify his contract. He comes in way too fat and out of shape to be making $9 million next year. And he is a hamstring injury waiting to happen every year these days. Also, dumping him would send a much-needed message to this team: We won't tolerate lack of effort, whether that be on the field, or getting ready to play (conditioning, weight control). Now, if they were willing to try a 4-3 using him as a DE, I might be willing to give that a try. But as is, he misses too much playing time, partly because he is simply too fat, and when he does play, he no longer produces. Since when do you pay $9 million for that? If they allow it, they are morons.

[pittpete]

Maybe let him gain 10 more lbs. and switch to a 4-3 defense

[lloydroid]

It just all depends on what the front office thinks. If James Harrison agrees to be cut and re-sign at a very low contract. Maybe they look at cutting Gildon-Woodley.

However, I think perhaps this is the year Woodley gets serious about his conditioning as he needs to be and comes back with a 15 sack season.

I am hoping that Harrison gets cut and comes back at a very reasonable contract. Woodley/Harrison/Worilds is better than no Harrison.

Harrison was rounding into his old self lately, as opposed to Woodley, who has done jack crap this season, whether he is playing or not. I think James will be ready to rock next year. And a healthy Harrison is as good as ANY LB in the NFL. He just is outstanding.

[JB13]

I think Woodley and Troy are in similar situations. They each need to reevaluate how they're preparing for the season. Troy should be done training with Marinovich. As for Woodley, if you've been plagued by hamstring injuries, make it your job in the offseason to investigate every feasible solution for getting your hamstrings to hold up over a 16 game schedule. Whatever it takes, that's what you do. You got your money, now put in the work needed to justify it. Find the best physical conditioning program you can and immerse yourself in it. I don't think either one of these guys has done enough to help themselves with injuries. I understand injuries often just happen, but you have to do everything you can to prevent them. If you know your hammies are giving out on you, find out why. If your calf is becoming a problem area, find out why. Try and fix things because what you're doing now isn't working.

[lloydroid]

Maybe let him gain 10 more lbs. and switch to a 4-3 defense

I am open to that. But to bring him back as an OLB in a 3-4 at $9 mill? No way.

[pittpete]

What are the cap implications concerning Woodley and his contract?
Anyone know?
If I'm looking at the contract correctly, he allready got his guaranteed $$$ in 2011 & 2012
If he's cut the cap hit would be accelerated.
13(signing bonus) divided by 6(length of contract) multiplied by 4(years left on contract) would come out to 8.6 million.
Did I do this right?

[BigRob]

I think Woodley and Troy are in similar situations. They each need to reevaluate how they're preparing for the season. Troy should be done training with Marinovich.

Troy didn't work out with Marinovich this offseason. He trained in Pittsburgh. Perhaps he should train with Ike. Taylor is always in top shape.

[BigRob]

What are the cap implications concerning Woodley and his contract?
Anyone know?
If I'm looking at the contract correctly, he allready got his guaranteed $$$ in 2011 & 2012
If he's cut the cap hit would be accelerated.
13(signing bonus) divided by 6(length of contract) multiplied by 4(years left on contract) would come out to 8.6 million.
Did I do this right?

Not sure, but I know he has a 13.2 million dollar cap charge this year.

[pittpete]

Steelers Restructure LaMarr Woodley's Contract; Clear $6.5M In 2012 Cap Space



The Pittsburgh Steelers cleared $6.56 million of salary cap space by renegotiating the contract of outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley, a league source confirmed on Tuesday.

Franchised by the Steelers prior to last year's lockout, Woodley signed a five-year extension worth $52.5 million on August. Woodley received a $13 million signing bonus, $4 million option bonus and a $1.1 million base salary which resulted in a 2011 cap number of $7.7 million. In 2012, Woodley was due a $3.4 million base salary and had a $5.5 million roster bonus due on the 5th day of the 2012 league year for a cap number of $11.5 million.

On Monday, Woodley agreed to a restructure that lowered his base salary to $700,000. The remaining $2.7 million in base salary was combined with his $5.5 million roster bonus and converted into an $8.2 million signing bonus, which will be prorated over the remaining five seasons of Woodley's contract.

Woodley's cap number in 2012 is now $4.94 million.

Woodley's base salaries in 2013-16 were unchanged, but $1.64 million was added to each year's cap number.

[Snatch98]

Those of you suggesting we cut him are out of your damn mind. He as already mentioned just needs to come in to camp at a reasonable weight. Playing at 270 pounds isn't working in his favor.

[lloydroid]

Those of you suggesting we cut him are out of your damn mind. He as already mentioned just needs to come in to camp at a reasonable weight. Playing at 270 pounds isn't working in his favor.

Snatch, how are we out of our minds if he DOES come in at 270? You admit he did so, yet you say cutting him is an insane idea. What if he comes in that heavy again, hurts his hammie again, and then when he does play, he plays invisible again? How would the idea of cutting him be so insane as those conditions could very well be what we get out of him next season?

[hawaiiansteel]

The WoodenDong Report (Game #15, vs. Cinci)

December 26, 2012 by Still Mill

In the spirit of the famous GilDong Report, we now bring you the WoodenDong Report.

In light of many a fan (and GM Kevin Colbert as well) being bamboozled and ga-ga over LaMarr Woodley’s paper statistics the past 3 seasons, I've devoted considerable time to monitor the work of the exceptionally average LaMarr Woodley.

As longtime Stillers.com readers may recall, Big Jason had been famous enough with his coverage sacks, flop sacks, the QB-slipped-on-the-wet-turf sacks, the OT totally forgot his blocking assignment sacks, and so on, that the NFL designated a new statistic, called the "Dong Sack™", in honor of Jason Gildong. (Some fantasy football leagues have incorporated this into their point systems for well over a decade.)

Here in 2012, we'll again take time to expose The Dogger, LaMarr Woodley, for the fraud that he truly is.

LaMarr missed games 12 and 13 with a (sob !) sore ankle, and finally returned to action last week versus the Cowpokes. Now, this past weekend, he was presumably as healthy as a horse, and should have been ready to hunt bear, with the playoffs on the line. He should have been looking to feast on the Bengals, against right tackle Andre Smith, who had allowed seven sacks and 24 hurries coming into the game.
At 9:14 2Q, Green-Ellis ran up RT and LaMarr got a slop assist.

Late in the 2Q, Green Ellis ran up RT on 1st down, and gained a nice, healthy 4 yards, with Big LaMarr finally making the stop. Any time you allow 4 yards on the ground on first down, it’s losing football, plain and simple.

Believe it or not, this was it from Big LaMarr during a game in which he played 62 of the 64 plays run by the Cinci offense. 1 solo, 1 assist, and a large pile of vomit.

Late in the 2Q, The Big He-Man was easily blocked out on a 2d & 15 shovel pass, which gained 23 yards and a 1st down.


Being such a big he-man, LaMarr got eaten alive in SOLO blocking by a TIGHT END, be it Jermaine Gresham or Orson Charles. He went 1 on 1 again the RT, Smith, 20 times, and never even got a sniff of the QB.

Big hits? NONE. Heavy QB pressure? None. Blown up plays? NONE. A paw in the face of the QB to disrupt the QB? None. Meaningful impact? None. The $61M Man spent the entire game titty-jousting and pad-groping and playing ***** paw-paw with opposing blockers. He loafed and lollygagged.

During his recent hiatus, we found out that Big LaMarr is a pro bowler. No, dummy....he’s not going to the Pro Bowl. As ****ty as their standards are, they wouldn’t take such a ****bag. No, Big LaMarr is a co-owner of the Pittsburgh Jackrabbits of a professional bowling league, which makes The Paper Tiger a pro bowler. "LaMarr is a proven winner -- his first question was how he could start winning," said PBA commissioner Tom Clark. Funny -- that’s the same question we’ve been asking of LaMarr....how he could start winning, instead of being the sack o’ **** loser that he has been for well over 3 years.

Of course, we here at Stillers.com know better. We’ve actually spent time watching and re-watching the game. Apparently, this is all ya get for $61M. Lesson learned -- ya can’t polish a turd, no matter how much money you might lavish him with. Just ask Jason GilDong, the original Donger himself.

Season to date totals for Big LaMarr, in 13 games:

Earned Sacks: 2

Dong Sacks™: 2

Strips, Jars, fumbles caused: 1

Flailing Whiffs: 3

First downs allowed: 11

TDs allowed: 1

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