Mike Wallace out vs the Browns

[Sugar]

I NEVER find it acceptable for any player to not give his best effort; it ruins team chemistry regardless of talent level.

Yet, some people have said that it would be OK for us to go down against the Browns...

[Chadman]

Other WRs may have less talent than MW, but do give better effort. I NEVER find it acceptable for any player to not give his best effort; it ruins team chemistry regardless of talent level. Look at TO and Moss as examples. Moss has been a model citizen in SF but he was a dark cloud in MN (2nd time around), TN, Oak. Wallace can take his non-trying ways to some other team. He is easily replaceable because he doesn't bother to give full effort.

Did you leave out Moss' years at NE on purpose because they didn't suit your argument?

Besides, it's an argument based purely on this board's speculation. There have been ZERO reports that Wallace has been a bad team mate. None.

Sad thing is, if he FO hadn't signed Brown to that tit-for-tat contract in the preseason, the Steelers would have kept Wallace. But because he baulked at signing, the FO said "we'll if you won't sign we'll get someone who will" and promptly overpaid a guy with a third of Wallace's career production, crossed their fingers, and hoped they could get something similar out of him. Guess that didn't work out so well.

[Chadman]

How true, Chadman. The "second man up" this year surely demonstrates this as well.
I hope they are able to work a deal with him. He does have strengths that the others lack. That is what a "team" is all about.

Going to the Steelers-Browns game on Sunday and looking for a win!

Kindle

Hey Kindle.

Unfortunately, I suspect the Wallace ship has sailed. Now we have 3 identical WR's to bamboozle the opposition with.

[BigRob]

Did you leave out Moss' years at NE on purpose because they didn't suit your argument?

Besides, it's an argument based purely on this board's speculation. There have been ZERO reports that Wallace has been a bad team mate. None.

Sad thing is, if he FO hadn't signed Brown to that tit-for-tat contract in the preseason, the Steelers would have kept Wallace. But because he baulked at signing, the FO said "we'll if you won't sign we'll get someone who will" and promptly overpaid a guy with a third of Wallace's career production, crossed their fingers, and hoped they could get something similar out of him. Guess that didn't work out so well.

Really? What seemed to be the case more than anything is that Brown and Wallace struggle without the other. What did Wallace do when Brown was out?

What are the Steelers supposed to do? Brown deserved an extension. He has a sub par year after the injury. I would imagine Brown is going to bounce back pretty big next year.

What is Wallace really worth? What he can get and he knows he will get more somewhere else.

He also didn't go all out for this team this year, but that was a lot of guys on the Steelers.

[lloydroid]

Yet, some people have said that it would be OK for us to go down against the Browns...

We all know if we don't win a ring, it's not a successful season, period. If the loss to the Browns made us more likely to win a ring in the next few years, then, yes, I'd take it. I am shocked that some Steeler fans can't grasp that with the Steelers, it's a ring or a FAIL. I am all for events that make a ring more likely, even if it means some current unpleasantnesses.

[Chadman]

Really? What seemed to be the case more than anything is that Brown and Wallace struggle without the other. What did Wallace do when Brown was out?

What are the Steelers supposed to do? Brown deserved an extension. He has a sub par year after the injury. I would imagine Brown is going to bounce back pretty big next year.

What is Wallace really worth? What he can get and he knows he will get more somewhere else.

He also didn't go all out for this team this year, but that was a lot of guys on the Steelers.

Chadman probably unfairly takes out his frustration on Brown. He is a good player. But the Steelers currently have 3 sharp, agile possession receivers, and 1 deep threat. We are losing the deep threat. Chadman's point- they old have lost Brown and replaced him with Sanders or Cotchery. Who replaces Wallace?

[SidSmythe]

All I am hoping for is some team gives him BIG MONEY and we get a 3rd for him

[Chadman]

All I am hoping for is some team gives him BIG MONEY and we get a 3rd for him

Dreading seeing him in a Patriots, 49ers or Ravens jumper though...

[SidSmythe]

Dreading seeing him in a Patriots, 49ers or Ravens jumper though...

Really doubt the Ravens would sign him b/c they have Torey Smith.

BUT lets hope he becomes a cancer if he goes to the PATS. Brady would be up his butt!!

[lloydroid]

Really doubt the Ravens would sign him b/c they have Torey Smith.

BUT lets hope he becomes a cancer if he goes to the PATS. Brady would be up his butt!!

The Ravens tend to hate X-Steelers, so much, that they don't seem to even want them on their roster, with the exception of signing our X-QBs. I recall when Burress was a FA, and they went on record saying they didn't need him because they already had some really tall WR on the roster (who was a bum and never did anything.) I bet they consider Wallace soft and won't even consider him. Pats? I'm not convinced Belichick wouldn't consider him too much a douche to work with. I could see the Raiders going for him, maybe AZ. Skins. Maybe Cinci; they love our left overs. KC. Det. desperately needs another WR to pair with Megatron.

[lloydroid]

Chadman probably unfairly takes out his frustration on Brown. He is a good player. But the Steelers currently have 3 sharp, agile possession receivers, and 1 deep threat. We are losing the deep threat. Chadman's point- they old have lost Brown and replaced him with Sanders or Cotchery. Who replaces Wallace?

Pats seem to do quite well without any deep threat, although they did have Moss for a few good seasons. And I suspect Pgh will draft some speedster who may or may not work out.

[SidSmythe]

The Ravens tend to hate X-Steelers, so much, that they don't seem to even want them on their roster, with the exception of signing our X-QBs. I recall when Burress was a FA, and they went on record saying they didn't need him because they already had some really tall WR on the roster (who was a bum and never did anything.) I bet they consider Wallace soft and won't even consider him. Pats? I'm not convinced Belichick wouldn't consider him too much a douche to work with. I could see the Raiders going for him, maybe AZ. Skins. Maybe Cinci; they love our left overs. KC. Det. desperately needs another WR to pair with Megatron.

I think K.C. needs someone next to BOWE.
If Al Davis was alive he would have been a RAIDER this year already

[BigRob]

Chadman probably unfairly takes out his frustration on Brown. He is a good player. But the Steelers currently have 3 sharp, agile possession receivers, and 1 deep threat. We are losing the deep threat. Chadman's point- they old have lost Brown and replaced him with Sanders or Cotchery. Who replaces Wallace?

A draft pick replaces him. I favor Terrance Williams from Baylor.

[Chadman]

A draft pick replaces him. I favor Terrance Williams from Baylor.

But there's the thing- now the Steelers need to use a high draft pick to replace him. If they lost Brown, a guy on the roster could do what he does.

Which other position do we not draft in order to now replace Wallace?

For the record, Chadman prefers Da'Rick Rogers out of Tenn.

[flippy]

There have been many #1 WRs with far less speed than Brown and Sanders. They have plenty of speed to open up the field with or without Wally.

All 3 of these guys get a bit of a bad rap in all of this. Wally held out and we hold that against him. Brown got his contract and we hold that against him. And Sanders hasn't outproduced either and we hold that against him. It's an impossible standard.

In retrospect, WRs are a dime a dozen. Too bad we didn't give Brown's money to Keenan Lewis? And I think we might be better served giving Wally and/or Manny's money to Cortez eventually.

At the end of the day, Ben can make due with Cotch, Plax, and Paulson to start next season and we can probably outproduce this year's scoring.