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  • lloydroid
    Pro Bowler
    • Aug 2012
    • 2026

    #16
    Originally posted by supersteeler
    Who is going to replace Casey Hampton? If he stays another year and accepts a lower amount of salary they may go in another direction, but we will need a disruptive NT. McClendon is too light in the britches to play NT on a regular basis so who do we have for that position?
    Look, we could use help in many positions, so I guess it depends on who is there when we pick. I could be wrong but I still say NT, however if a good safety is available I wouldn't be opposed to taking him. Mundy isn't starting material, Troy and clark have what 11 years in the league? We need to get young at that position for the long term.
    Are you giving up on Ta'amu already? I thought he was supposed to rule at NT. I know he went on a bender and got in trouble, but his career isn't over already is it? McClendon seems decent, at least to back up. We need DBs and a LB or 2. We must get some play makers out there.

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    • supersteeler
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2012
      • 1089

      #17
      Originally posted by lloydroid
      Are you giving up on Ta'amu already? I thought he was supposed to rule at NT. I know he went on a bender and got in trouble, but his career isn't over already is it? McClendon seems decent, at least to back up. We need DBs and a LB or 2. We must get some play makers out there.
      I don't know what the Steelers plans are regarding Ta'amu, first he has a legal hurdle to overcome. If he should get through the legal issues, he may have a second chance with the team but for now it's all up in the air. If he is able to compete for the position, then the Steelers may go in another direction in the draft. At this rate BPA might be the ticket in the 2013 draft as we need help in almost every position.

      If we could work out a trade with a team, we might be able to get an extra draft pick for Wallace, as it appears he will sign with another team.
      Btw, I'm hearing skuttlebutt that Miami might pursue Wallace.
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      • Sugar
        Hall of Famer
        • Oct 2008
        • 3700

        #18
        If Matt Barkley is there, do you take him? He could be BPA.

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        • hawaiiansteel
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 35648

          #19
          Originally posted by Sugar
          If Matt Barkley is there, do you take him? He could be BPA.
          no, you don't.

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          • papillon
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 11340

            #20
            Originally posted by Sugar
            If Matt Barkley is there, do you take him? He could be BPA.
            Please no, do not draft a quarterback from USC that is highly regarded (we've seen enough of them live down to expectations), unless, he's there in the 5th or 6th round.

            Pappy
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            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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            • Chadman
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 6537

              #21
              Originally posted by supersteeler
              I don't know what the Steelers plans are regarding Ta'amu, first he has a legal hurdle to overcome. If he should get through the legal issues, he may have a second chance with the team but for now it's all up in the air. If he is able to compete for the position, then the Steelers may go in another direction in the draft. At this rate BPA might be the ticket in the 2013 draft as we need help in almost every position.

              If we could work out a trade with a team, we might be able to get an extra draft pick for Wallace, as it appears he will sign with another team.
              Btw, I'm hearing skuttlebutt that Miami might pursue Wallace.
              Although we'll be in the minority- Chadman agrees. NT is a VITAL cog in this 3-4, and it's no surprise that the pressure on the opposing QB has dwindled as Casey Hampton's career has dwindled. A dominant 3-4 NT will soak up an extra blocker, collapse a pocket, and be stout against the run. Right now, we are stout, most of the time.

              That's it.

              By soaking up the extra blocker, you instantly make the job easier for your DE's to get pressure- something we all want. And if your DE's are getting more attention, your OLB's are getting freer on the outside. NT is the cog that makes the defense turn.

              Converesly, if there are no NT's of worth available- the Steelers OL has not dominated the LOS all season. If they could add a dominant OG to play opposite DeCastro & alongside Pouncey, then the running game becomes more effective, Ben gets more time, the passing game improves. Chadman likes Colon, thought he actually played alright at LG, but cap-cost & injury-risk are starting to not add up well. By drafting mid-1st round, the steelers will be perfectly positioned to grab the #1 IOL player on the draftboard.

              Those that want a passrusher to replace Harrison- we have him. Worilds. Don't kid yourselves- any new guy coming in will be placed behind Worilds next season. And Chadman will beat the SS/FS drum as loud as anyone, but so long as they invest in guys that fit the system, raw players are fine, as the 'need' for them to start is at least a season away. Foote did not play badly enough to be replaced, so long as his cap figure isn't too bad, and the Steelers will need Vet leaders next season. This would give Spence a year to get back & show if there is something there.

              1 position that WILL need to be addressed is TE. With Miller's injury, you'd have to be concerned about him not being ready for the start of next season. Anyone feel confidant about Paulsen starting?
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              • supersteeler
                Pro Bowler
                • Dec 2012
                • 1089

                #22
                Chadman,
                I'm in agreement with you also, that if we can't get that dominate NT we go LG to make that line great. I think if DeCasto didn't have the injury in the preseason he would of been dominate by now. He just didn't have enough reps and game experience but he'll be a good one. Again, most games are won in the trenches, thats why I favor getting a dominate NT to help free up our ends like you stated very well.

                Johnathan Jenkins is like a box truck, you can't move this guy and @ 358 he not only has tremendous power he eats up blocks. We get that Georgia Bulldog and we're set for a decade.

                Btw, DeCastro made Ta'Amu a non factor when they played against each other in college.
                Last edited by supersteeler; 12-25-2012, 08:22 PM.
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                • Mister Pittsburgh
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3674

                  #23
                  Originally posted by supersteeler
                  Btw, DeCastro made Ta'Amu a non factor when they played against each other in college.
                  3-4 & 4-3 DL do different things. I don't see how Ta'amu can get out of some prison time on a 2nd DUI and all the other stuff like evading police and nearly running cops over.
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                  • SS Laser
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1929

                    #24
                    I think it was the depot that said Hamp had a very good game against the bengals. That is why they could not run the ball. Timmons also had a very good game to help with them not running the ball. But I agree that a NT makes this 3-4 line work or not. If Te'o is a can't mis guy but he gets drafted before we pick. I like a NT or OLB at this point in the first rd. What position is this draft deep at?

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                    • supersteeler
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1089

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                      3-4 & 4-3 DL do different things. I don't see how Ta'amu can get out of some prison time on a 2nd DUI and all the other stuff like evading police and nearly running cops over.
                      Thats why I responded to lloydroid's question about giving up on TA'amu, that he has too many legal hurdles to overcome, plus he didn't do much in camp against competition. Mclendon is a good backup, but we need a dominate NT in there. Yes Casey had a good game against the Bengals and a decent year this season but his age and salary are against him.
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                      • Shawn
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Sugar
                        If Matt Barkley is there, do you take him? He could be BPA.
                        Its odd that you say that. It would have never entered my mind. But, I have had two draft dreams in my life. The first was when I dreamt we would trade up to grab Santonio Holmes. The second was recently, when I was floored that we drafted a QB. With that said, there isn't a QB in this draft round one worthy and that includes Barkley. So, I assume my dream was related to a bad slice of pizza and we go with either Jonathan Hankins DT, or Mingo LB. If a NT can be called a game changer Hankins is that guy. Mingo is also a freak, would be ok with either guy. Mingo is so fast and athletic that I know Tomlin is drooling just thinking about drafting him.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • Chadman
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 6537

                          #27
                          Really like the look of the NT out of Purdue... but Jesse Williams out of Alabama would be just fine.
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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Shawn
                            Its odd that you say that. It would have never entered my mind. But, I have had two draft dreams in my life. The first was when I dreamt we would trade up to grab Santonio Holmes. The second was recently, when I was floored that we drafted a QB. With that said, there isn't a QB in this draft round one worthy and that includes Barkley. So, I assume my dream was related to a bad slice of pizza and we go with either Jonathan Hankins DT, or Mingo LB. If a NT can be called a game changer Hankins is that guy. Mingo is also a freak, would be ok with either guy. Mingo is so fast and athletic that I know Tomlin is drooling just thinking about drafting him.
                            Mingo has "bust" written all over him. He is way too raw to take as high as we will be drafting. Mingo and Montgomery remind me of Hugh Green and Ricky Jackson fro Pitt many years ago. Mingo, like Green, gets the hype but Montgomery, like Jackson, will be the better player in the NFL. I would prefer Montgomery over Mingo. But then we have that wait for two years issue before they get significant playing time under LeBeau.

                            As far as an ILB, look no further than Kevin Minter to take over for Foote. It is a pipe dream to think that Sean Spence will be able to play at a high level in 2013.
                            Last edited by Oviedo; 12-26-2012, 09:44 AM.
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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #29
                              Originally posted by SidSmythe
                              Huh??
                              That is an excellent mock draft.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                                Hall of Famer
                                • May 2008
                                • 3937

                                #30
                                At 7-9:

                                RD 1 - DAMONTRE MOORE OLB
                                RD 2 - KENNY VACCARO S
                                RD 3 - LE'VEON BELL RB
                                RD 4 - GERALD HODGES ILB
                                RD 5 - JOSEPH FAURIA TE
                                RD 6 - BRAD SORENSEN QB
                                RD 7 - MARQUEIS GRAY WR

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