Beyond Haley, How Do the Steelers Fix the Offense?? (Per DukieBoy's request)

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  • SidSmythe
    Hall of Famer
    • Sep 2008
    • 4708

    Beyond Haley, How Do the Steelers Fix the Offense?? (Per DukieBoy's request)

    Beyond Haley, How Do the Steelers Fix the Offense?? (Per DukieBoy's request)

    A Healthy O-Line would be nice.

    BUT I SAY:
    -get rid of the RB by committee approach. Develop a TOP back and go with Him.
    -Let Wallace walk ... He's an all or nothing guy. We need someone who's passionate about not only making big plays but doing the little things.
    -A good 2nd TE would help
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!
  • DukieBoy
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3488

    #2
    Thanks.

    I think what needs to be fixed include:
    Team leadership
    Commitment to the Team
    Cohesiveness (damaged by selfishness)
    Discipline
    Strategy
    Coaching decisions
    Sacks
    Turnovers
    Arrogance
    Overweight OL's who lack agility and get injured (or injure their own teammates) too easily.

    This 2012 team has failed to live up to the Steerers legacy each of the players and coachers have been lucky to be part of. Some self-examination and changes are needed.



    On the defensive side ...
    I just want to say that Lewis was an absolute warrior today, as was Cortez, Timmons, and Keisel. And Troy was incredible beyond all else. On the other hand, Woodley seems to play lazy alot. We are better off with Worilds in that spot.





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    • SidSmythe
      Hall of Famer
      • Sep 2008
      • 4708

      #3
      Not going to point a finger at the DEFENSE this year. They weren't perfect and not as dominant as their #1 ranking would prefer, but I am so disappointed with our offense I just wanna overhaul the whole system.
      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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      • flippy
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 17088

        #4
        Good list Dukie.

        I'd add it might be time to consider bringing in and developing a young QB. And fix the OLine. I dont know if it's the players, the coaching, or the conditioning. We need to bring in someone who can do for the Oline what Lake has done for the secondary.
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        • costanza2k1
          Hall of Famer
          • Mar 2008
          • 2579

          #5
          Get a OL coach to match the athleticism of lineman. Get someone fill a leadership roll on the O, Ben clearly can't handle anyone let alone himself without crying.
          ours is not to wonder why just invert and multiply...

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          • DukieBoy
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 3488

            #6
            BTW, reports on twitter are saying Heath has a torn ACL. That will need to be fixed, too. He has been great again this year.





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            • Eddie Spaghetti
              Hall of Famer
              • Jul 2008
              • 4123

              #7
              Originally posted by costanza2k1
              Get a OL coach to match the athleticism of lineman. Get someone fill a leadership roll on the O, Ben clearly can't handle anyone let alone himself without crying.
              bens maturity level needs to improve big time.

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              • costanza2k1
                Hall of Famer
                • Mar 2008
                • 2579

                #8
                Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                bens maturity level needs to improve big time.
                At this point in his career, got to wonder if it's too late for that...I mean we are heading into the stretch part of the season and he's still moping around crying about plays...seems to me he's at the ball in his hands in a no huddle situation to win multiple games and he couldn't deliver.
                ours is not to wonder why just invert and multiply...

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                • jj28west
                  Starter
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 784

                  #9
                  Well said Dukie.

                  There are things that transpired behind the scenes that resulted in such a poor "buy in" to Haley's philosophy as the season wore on.

                  We will probably never know exactly what happened and when it happened but it became pretty obvious in the finished product on Sundays.

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                  • BURGH86STEEL
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 6921

                    #10
                    Get more consistent play from the QB. More consistent play from the QB will make everyone on offense better. More consistent play from the QB position isn't going to come to fruition as long as Ben remains the QB. I don't see Ben going anywhere. This is the offense the Steelers will have as long as Ben remains the QB. It's the way the offense has been since Ben became the Steelers "offense".

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                    • williar
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1170

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                      Get more consistent play from the QB. More consistent play from the QB will make everyone on offense better. More consistent play from the QB position isn't going to come to fruition as long as Ben remains the QB. I don't see Ben going anywhere. This is the offense the Steelers will have as long as Ben remains the QB. It's the way the offense has been since Ben became the Steelers "offense".
                      The cold, hard TRUTH...

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                      • Jigawatts
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 2639

                        #12
                        I think the problem is the basics. Teams like the Patriots are great year after year because they do the things 6 year olds are taught. Steelers don't.
                        I don't know if that's coaching or the player. I guess you have to draft the right kind of INDIVIDUAL that doesn't need to be coached like he's a first grader.
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                        • NJ-STEELER
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 12563

                          #13
                          it might get worse

                          with wally gone and mendy likley gone too. the way this team goes about trying to get skill players scares me.

                          is there another team out there with worse pedigree (draft order) then our skill positions?

                          yet, the majority of mocks im seeing from posters want defense at the top of the draft. I dont get it

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                          • NJ-STEELER
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 12563

                            #14
                            and now our only returning high 1st rounder skill position player (heath) will be coming off a major injury

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                            • lloydroid
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2026

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                              bens maturity level needs to improve big time.
                              I guess getting married and having a baby isn't a miracle cure on the maturity front. Oh well.

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