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  • Jooser
    Legend
    • Jul 2008
    • 5102

    #16
    You guys are losing it. That INT had nothing to do with Wallace, it was a really poor throw. You can't blame Wallace for everything. The team as a whole just sucks this year, period.
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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27532

      #17
      Is Wallace the Lebron James of the Steelers or what? The guy gets blamed for everything.

      This is about Ben in crunch time and he isn't getting it done.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • BradshawsHairdresser
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 7056

        #18
        Originally posted by Jooser
        You guys are losing it. That INT had nothing to do with Wallace, it was a really poor throw. You can't blame Wallace for everything. The team as a whole just sucks this year, period.
        The interception wasn't Wallace's fault, but why couldn't he show a little effort and tag the guy that picked off the pass? I get the impression #17 doesn't care a whole lot about the Steelers winning this season...maybe he's trying to get back at them for not giving him the contract he thinks he deserves...

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #19
          Originally posted by DukieBoy
          Ben seems to have some difficulty throwing to his right accurately, unless his feet are well set to throw that way. Wondering what effects the injuries have to do with that.
          Good observation...after seeing the 60 yard bomb to Wallace, I figured that we were out of the woods with regard to Ben's shoulder issue. However, you are correct about throwing to his right. He bounce-passed a screen toward Wallace on the right side earlier, and then was woefully short on another simple screen to the right (may have been Will Johnson that other time, but I'm not 100% sure). Then in overtime, it should have been a straightforward completion to Wallace, but it was behind him and had very little oomph on it. I wonder if there is some lingering range of motion issue with throwing to his right and compared to throwing straight ahead and to his left. Granted, the TD to Miller was to the right, but it wasn't a bang-bang snap-throw play...he was able to scramble around prior to that throw, so the same issues with regard to how his feet are planted are not in play there as compared to WR screens and quick outs to the right.
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          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27532

            #20
            Not sure if Ben's injury is the reason for the bounced passes to his right... this isn't the first time Ben has thrown a duck in the flats. I think it has more to do with his foot work. Sometimes QB's who are gifted with big arms forget to step into the easy passes... it's no different than a WR who doesn't look the ball in or a basketball player who doesn't use the board on an open layup.

            As far as Wallace not touching the defender... not sure about that one. I'm sensing Wallace isn't fundamentally sound when it comes to his running technique and this is why his routes are sloppy and his momentum gets the best of him. He runs like a duck and isn't sharp when it comes to his cuts... looks like he rounded off at the end and didn't realize the guy caught/controlled the INT.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • flippy
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 17088

              #21
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Good observation...after seeing the 60 yard bomb to Wallace, I figured that we were out of the woods with regard to Ben's shoulder issue. However, you are correct about throwing to his right. He bounce-passed a screen toward Wallace on the right side earlier, and then was woefully short on another simple screen to the right (may have been Will Johnson that other time, but I'm not 100% sure). Then in overtime, it should have been a straightforward completion to Wallace, but it was behind him and had very little oomph on it. I wonder if there is some lingering range of motion issue with throwing to his right and compared to throwing straight ahead and to his left. Granted, the TD to Miller was to the right, but it wasn't a bang-bang snap-throw play...he was able to scramble around prior to that throw, so the same issues with regard to how his feet are planted are not in play there as compared to WR screens and quick outs to the right.
              It looked Ben had Peyton's arm strength on that throw.
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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27532

                #22
                Like I said....

                Just sayin'
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • steelfin
                  Backup
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 455

                  #23
                  Originally posted by flippy
                  It looked Ben had Peyton's arm strength on that throw.

                  If Ben played like Peyton we would still be in the hunt for #7....

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