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  • Sword
    Pro Bowler
    • Sep 2011
    • 2048

    Brian Hoyer signs...

    So, what do you guys think of this one? I think it's a good choice.
    He has experience playing backup to an elite QB and team...
  • flippy
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 17088

    #2
    I have no idea. Maybe he's friends with Plax and they came as a package both being from MSU? Did they work out together or something?

    Anyone know why the Pats cut him?

    The last Pats backup, Cassell, is awful. Belichick has a history of bad QBs other than Brady. He hit the jackpot with Brady, but even going back to Cleveland, he's never had a knack for developing QBs. So this signing is a bit of a head scratcher.
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    • Shawn
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #3
      Yeah the Pats cut Hoyer not because he wasn't progressing but because they invested a draft pick in Mallet. There was some upset within the Pats camp because Hoyer at the point he was cut was the better QB...certainly managed games better. Hoyer put up some really nice numbers in his two preseasons, is a good game manager and can make the throws.
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      • Sword
        Pro Bowler
        • Sep 2011
        • 2048

        #4
        Originally posted by flippy
        I have no idea. Maybe he's friends with Plax and they came as a package both being from MSU? Did they work out together or something?

        Anyone know why the Pats cut him?

        The last Pats backup, Cassell, is awful. Belichick has a history of bad QBs other than Brady. He hit the jackpot with Brady, but even going back to Cleveland, he's never had a knack for developing QBs. So this signing is a bit of a head scratcher.
        Drew Bledsoe....

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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #5
          I think Hoyer is a good pick up. The type of offense the Pats run is not that different than what haley is running based on quick reads and short to medium range routes. Let's face it, it's not like there are alot of great QBs waiting for a job.

          I was more surprised we signed Burress over Derrick Williams given that Williams was with us all through camp. Personally I think Burress will be on zero value. he wasn't good last year when he played and I don't expect he will do anything for us. They should have just brought up the other kid from the practice squad like they did Gilreath.
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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #6
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            I think Hoyer is a good pick up. The type of offense the Pats run is not that different than what haley is running based on quick reads and short to medium range routes. Let's face it, it's not like there are alot of great QBs waiting for a job.

            I was more surprised we signed Burress over Derrick Williams given that Williams was with us all through camp. Personally I think Burress will be on zero value. he wasn't good last year when he played and I don't expect he will do anything for us. They should have just brought up the other kid from the practice squad like they did Gilreath.
            I would like to see what Burress can do with Ben... I can't judge Burress based on his production with Dirty Sanchez... that guy sucks.
            Steelers 27
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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #7
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              I would like to see what Burress can do with Ben... I can't judge Burress based on his production with Dirty Sanchez... that guy sucks.
              IMO Burress offers nothing. They guy sucked for the Jets last year and he will suck for us.
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • NorthCoast
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                • Sep 2008
                • 26636

                #8
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                IMO Burress offers nothing. They guy sucked for the Jets last year and he will suck for us.
                uhh.... he was good for 8 TDs last season.... which is more than the 2-4 WRs combined....

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                • flippy
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 17088

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  The type of offense the Pats run is not that different than what haley is running based on quick reads and short to medium range routes.
                  This is probably why we signed him. Good point Ovi 1.
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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NorthCoast
                    uhh.... he was good for 8 TDs last season.... which is more than the 2-4 WRs combined....
                    Yup...in that sucky Jets season coming in rusty after 2 years out of the league with a prison stay and Sanchez throwing him the ball, he still had the same number of TD catches that Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders have for their entire NFL careers combined (and that would be 5 total NFL seasons...2.5 years of each in the league)...if anything, Plaxico should certainly help us in the red zone (but between the 20's, I prefer Cotchery to Plax at this stage of their careers...once Jerricho's rib heal, of course).
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • flippy
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 17088

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      Yup...in that sucky Jets season coming in rusty after 2 years out of the league with a prison stay and Sanchez throwing him the ball, he still had the same number of TD catches that Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders have for their entire NFL careers combined (and that would be 5 total NFL seasons...2.5 years of each in the league)...if anything, Plaxico should certainly help us in the red zone (but between the 20's, I prefer Cotchery to Plax at this stage of their careers...once Jerricho's rib heal, of course).
                      I'd still dress Plax over Cotch because we have no problem moving the ball between the 20s without Cotchery.
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                      • steelfin
                        Backup
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 455

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        IMO Burress offers nothing. They guy sucked for the Jets last year and he will suck for us.
                        612 yards on 48 catches and 8 TDs...With a very bad QB throwing to him.

                        No guarantee that he will be successful in the Burgh...but by no means did he suck last year. He could become another red zone threat for this team...and that is something we most definitely could use.

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                        • Mister Pittsburgh
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3674

                          #13
                          Hoyer seems like a solid addition and possibly beyond this year. Pretty sure the Pats don't keep dummies around and in that office you have to have an arm to make all the throws.
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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            #14
                            Brian Hoyer Could Help Steelers With Quarterback Depth In Short & Long Terms

                            Nov 21st, 2012 by Dominic Di Tolla



                            While the Plaxico Burress signing has garnered most of the headlines around “Steeler Nation” over the last day and a half, Pittsburgh’s Front Office also added another player to their roster on Tuesday afternoon. Due to the team’s immense and dire need of depth at the Quarterback position, the Steelers signed former New England Patriot Brian Hoyer to their roster. Although the pick-up of Burress will be a more meaningful move as far as the 2012 season goes, I personally feel like the signing of Hoyer could be yet another solid move made by G.M. Kevin Colbert & The Front Office. In fact, I believe that Pittsburgh is actually an ideal setting for a Quarterback like Hoyer, and both parties should be able to benefit from the deal.

                            Hoyer’s Career (2009-2011)

                            So who exactly is Brian Hoyer, and where did he come from? Well for those of you readers unsure or unaware, Hoyer held the clipboard as Tom Brady’s top understudy in New England, and beat out three veteran Quarterbacks as an Undrafted Free Agent to make the team in 2009. Over his three seasons in New England, Brian saw only a small amount of game-time (27 for 43, 286 Yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 80.2 QB Rating, 1 Rush TD), but was nevertheless able to work in one of the best environment’s for a young Quarterback. It is not often that UDFA’s are exposed to the teachings and work-ethic of people like his Quarterbacks Coach/Offensive Coordinator Bill O’Brien and Ugg Spokesman and a Three-time Super Bowl winner like Brady.

                            Unfortunately for Hoyer, his time in New England ended prematurely and probably had everything to do with the rest of the then-Quarterback-needy teams passing on Ryan Mallett in the 2011 N.F.L. Draft. Mallett, a guy I believed was the best pure-passer and possessed the best potential N.F.L. skill-set (arm-strength and knowledge of passing game) in that Draft Class lasted until the end of the 3rd Round that season due to some character concerns. To their credit, the Patriots jumped at the chance to take a 1st-Round talent like Mallett so late in the Draft process, and used the luxury they had with Hoyer and Brady in front of him and allow their 3rd Round selection to develop. This season however, New England felt like Mallett was their Quarterback of the future. As the #3 Quarterback and set to make $1.9 million dollars (RFA Tender), Hoyer who became the odd-man-out this past August, and was cut.

                            How the Steelers & Hoyer Can Benefit

                            With Hoyer on the roster now, the Steelers can properly gauge how well the 4th year pro picks up the Offense and whether or not he can compete for a roster spot next season with six regular season games and an entire offseason under his belt. Remember, both Batch (38 years old in 2013) and Leftwich (33 years old in 2013) will be potential Unrestricted Free Agents next season, and I have a hard time believing that the Steelers would bring both if either of them back unless Hoyer is a complete and total flop. Plus, the former Spartan will have the chance to learn under Coordinator Todd Haley, Quarterbacks Coach Randy Fichtner, as well as Roethlisberger and maybe even one of the elder statesmen over the coming seasons as he continues his development. If Hoyer eventually succeeds and earns a backup spot with the team, he could definitely help to shore up Pittsburgh’s backup Quarterback position and entrench himself as “The Guy..Behind The Guy” (“Swingers” reference I know) as the #2 Quarterback on Pittsburgh’s Depth Chart.

                            Final Thoughts

                            Pittsburgh needed to find some way to bolster their depth at Quarterback in the present and in the future, and I believe this move to sign Hoyer can accomplish both goals. I simply want the Steelers to have some sort of capable, younger (sorry Charlie), and non-injury prone option to turn to if Roethlisberger ever goes down for a significant period of time in the future. Although the 6’2″ 215 lb. Hoyer is not an elite athlete, he has learned from some of the best Teachers and Students at the craft (O’Brien & Brady), and has displayed enough of a skill-set to establish himself as a legitimate #2 on an N.F.L. roster.

                            Whether it is Hoyer or somebody else, the Steelers need to have a non-injury prone/non-elderly backup option behind Big Ben sooner as opposed to later. This will be especially the case when Big Ben enters his mid-30′s and a decade-plus of hits and injuries begin to really take their toll. If this situation eventually happens and Roethlisberger goes down again, I earnestly hope that Hoyer, another Free Agent, or another Draft Pick can fill in and play adequately.

                            Hoyer has a golden opportunity to learn and continue to develop behind and under some of the N.F.L.’s best in Pittsburgh. With the uncertainty behind Big Ben, Hoyer will likely be given every chance to wrestle the #2 spot away from Batch and Leftwich between now and the beginning of the 2013 season as well. I am crossing my fingers that this deal works out well for both parties.

                            [URL]http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/11/21/brian-hoyer-could-help-steelers-with-quarterback-depth-in-short-long-terms/[/URL]

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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              Brian Hoyer Could Help Steelers With Quarterback Depth In Short & Long Terms

                              Nov 21st, 2012 by Dominic Di Tolla



                              While the Plaxico Burress signing has garnered most of the headlines around “Steeler Nation” over the last day and a half, Pittsburgh’s Front Office also added another player to their roster on Tuesday afternoon. Due to the team’s immense and dire need of depth at the Quarterback position, the Steelers signed former New England Patriot Brian Hoyer to their roster. Although the pick-up of Burress will be a more meaningful move as far as the 2012 season goes, I personally feel like the signing of Hoyer could be yet another solid move made by G.M. Kevin Colbert & The Front Office. In fact, I believe that Pittsburgh is actually an ideal setting for a Quarterback like Hoyer, and both parties should be able to benefit from the deal.

                              Hoyer’s Career (2009-2011)

                              So who exactly is Brian Hoyer, and where did he come from? Well for those of you readers unsure or unaware, Hoyer held the clipboard as Tom Brady’s top understudy in New England, and beat out three veteran Quarterbacks as an Undrafted Free Agent to make the team in 2009. Over his three seasons in New England, Brian saw only a small amount of game-time (27 for 43, 286 Yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 80.2 QB Rating, 1 Rush TD), but was nevertheless able to work in one of the best environment’s for a young Quarterback. It is not often that UDFA’s are exposed to the teachings and work-ethic of people like his Quarterbacks Coach/Offensive Coordinator Bill O’Brien and Ugg Spokesman and a Three-time Super Bowl winner like Brady.

                              Unfortunately for Hoyer, his time in New England ended prematurely and probably had everything to do with the rest of the then-Quarterback-needy teams passing on Ryan Mallett in the 2011 N.F.L. Draft. Mallett, a guy I believed was the best pure-passer and possessed the best potential N.F.L. skill-set (arm-strength and knowledge of passing game) in that Draft Class lasted until the end of the 3rd Round that season due to some character concerns. To their credit, the Patriots jumped at the chance to take a 1st-Round talent like Mallett so late in the Draft process, and used the luxury they had with Hoyer and Brady in front of him and allow their 3rd Round selection to develop. This season however, New England felt like Mallett was their Quarterback of the future. As the #3 Quarterback and set to make $1.9 million dollars (RFA Tender), Hoyer who became the odd-man-out this past August, and was cut.

                              How the Steelers & Hoyer Can Benefit

                              With Hoyer on the roster now, the Steelers can properly gauge how well the 4th year pro picks up the Offense and whether or not he can compete for a roster spot next season with six regular season games and an entire offseason under his belt. Remember, both Batch (38 years old in 2013) and Leftwich (33 years old in 2013) will be potential Unrestricted Free Agents next season, and I have a hard time believing that the Steelers would bring both if either of them back unless Hoyer is a complete and total flop. Plus, the former Spartan will have the chance to learn under Coordinator Todd Haley, Quarterbacks Coach Randy Fichtner, as well as Roethlisberger and maybe even one of the elder statesmen over the coming seasons as he continues his development. If Hoyer eventually succeeds and earns a backup spot with the team, he could definitely help to shore up Pittsburgh’s backup Quarterback position and entrench himself as “The Guy..Behind The Guy” (“Swingers” reference I know) as the #2 Quarterback on Pittsburgh’s Depth Chart.

                              Final Thoughts

                              Pittsburgh needed to find some way to bolster their depth at Quarterback in the present and in the future, and I believe this move to sign Hoyer can accomplish both goals. I simply want the Steelers to have some sort of capable, younger (sorry Charlie), and non-injury prone option to turn to if Roethlisberger ever goes down for a significant period of time in the future. Although the 6’2″ 215 lb. Hoyer is not an elite athlete, he has learned from some of the best Teachers and Students at the craft (O’Brien & Brady), and has displayed enough of a skill-set to establish himself as a legitimate #2 on an N.F.L. roster.

                              Whether it is Hoyer or somebody else, the Steelers need to have a non-injury prone/non-elderly backup option behind Big Ben sooner as opposed to later. This will be especially the case when Big Ben enters his mid-30′s and a decade-plus of hits and injuries begin to really take their toll. If this situation eventually happens and Roethlisberger goes down again, I earnestly hope that Hoyer, another Free Agent, or another Draft Pick can fill in and play adequately.

                              Hoyer has a golden opportunity to learn and continue to develop behind and under some of the N.F.L.’s best in Pittsburgh. With the uncertainty behind Big Ben, Hoyer will likely be given every chance to wrestle the #2 spot away from Batch and Leftwich between now and the beginning of the 2013 season as well. I am crossing my fingers that this deal works out well for both parties.

                              [URL]http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/11/21/brian-hoyer-could-help-steelers-with-quarterback-depth-in-short-long-terms/[/URL]
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