if this wr is available in FA next year, how much should we pay him?

[squidkid]

31st in receptions
36th in yards
60th in average per catch
12th in td's
52nd in 20+ yd receptions
46th in YPG
2nd in fumbles
41st in YAC
59th in catches for 1st downs
27th in targets

[Lebsteel]

We shouldn't and we won't sign Mike Wallace, even if he wants a Antonio Brown-level contract. His effort is not worthy of a top dollar contract, no way, no how.

[hawaiiansteel]

we'll probably offer him the same contract he refused to sign this year and he will probably refuse again in search of Vincent Jackson type money.

and he'll probably find it, only takes one team like the Raiders or Redskins to overpay...

[D Rock]

How much would you pay for a guy who is 5th in yards and 7th in TDs? Because it's the same guy, just a different system and different year.

[flippy]

He's worth about $2.7M.

[Oviedo]

How much would you pay for a guy who is 5th in yards and 7th in TDs? Because it's the same guy, just a different system and different year.

Do you think we are getting a new Off Coord next year and implementing a new "Wallace friendly" system? The Wallace we see in the system this year would be the Wallace in the system next year. That is why he is worth the fair offer he was offered this past summer and not more. Haley isn't all of the sudden going to start chucking 40-50 yard passes because of Wallace. We fired the guy who did that.

[Oviedo]

He's worth about $2.7M.

IMO he is worth $8-9M just like we offered him. Not more and not less. I just don't see how we have even that much. I think there was one $8M+ contract available in the plan and Wallace got first chance at it and balked at it and Brown jumped at it. As they say, the rest is history!

[lloydroid]

He's worth about $2.7M.

He's not even worth that right now. Not basing it on the most recent play and attitude. He stinks. If he just tries, we win last game.

[flippy]

He's not even worth that right now. Not basing it on the most recent play and attitude. He stinks. If he just tries, we win last game.

Remember the Bible story about Samson who lost all his strength when his hair was cut? Maybe Wallace lost his abilities when he got his mohawk cut off. Clark's been playing good with the Mohawk.

C'Mon Wally, it's time to Rock the Hawk.

[D Rock]

Has anyone here ever had turmoil at work, felt like they were being paid less than they deserved, had an uncertain future with their company?

It tends to affect your focus, whether you are committed to doing your job or not. I fully believe that if Wallace signs a contract with the Steelers before next season, one that is agreed to by both sides, that these brain farts will disappear.

[Oviedo]

Many of us do not like Wallace's punk moves this summer and some of the apathy he showed the other night but lets not characterize him as a bad WR. He is a very good WR who excels at one thing and does others average to beter than average. That is worth what the Steelers offered him in the NFL today.

I think the bottomline is Wallace knows exactly what he has been doing since day 1. He doesn't want to be here no matter what PR he puts out. He will do his best not to let his teammates down but he isn't going to kill himself going above and beyond either. He sees the handwriting on the wall and it says "Goodbye Mike."

[hawaiiansteel]

IMO he is worth $8-9M just like we offered him. Not more and not less.

our front office is very smart, that's the sum they offered him previously and that's most likely the same amount we will try to re-sign him for again at the end of the season.

if Wallace can find another team that is willing to pay him more, then God Bless him.

[RuthlessBurgher]

On the other hand...

How much do you pay a guy who still has TRIPLE the number of TD catches in this awful, miserable year for him (6 so far) than every other WR on this team combined this season (2 total so far; Antonio Brown has 1 and Emmanuel Sanders has 1 and that's it)?

How much do you pay a guy whose WORST season in terms of catching TD's (only 6 TD catches during his rookie season) is still TRIPLE the number of TD catches that each of the other "Young Money" wideouts had in their BEST seasons (Sanders had 2 TD catches in 2010 and 2011, Brown had 2 TD catches in 2011 and 1 TD catch in 2010)?

How much do you pay a guy who has SIX TIMES as many career TD catches as Sanders (30 vs. 5) and TEN TIMES as many career TD catches as Brown (30 vs. 3)?

Until anyone other than Heath Miller starts catching TD's for this team more than once every 2 freaking months, I cannot imagine how poor our scoring offense will be if Wallace gets kicked to the curb as many on this board seemingly can't wait to see happen.

[Oviedo]

On the other hand...

How much do you pay a guy who still has TRIPLE the number of TD catches in this awful, miserable year for him (6 so far) than every other WR on this team combined this season (2 total so far; Antonio Brown has 1 and Emmanuel Sanders has 1 and that's it)?

How much do you pay a guy whose WORST season in terms of catching TD's (only 6 TD catches during his rookie season) is still TRIPLE the number of TD catches that each of the other "Young Money" wideouts had in their BEST seasons (Sanders had 2 TD catches in 2010 and 2011, Brown had 2 TD catches in 2011 and 1 TD catch in 2010)?

How much do you pay a guy who has SIX TIMES as many career TD catches as Sanders (30 vs. 5) and TEN TIMES as many career TD catches as Brown (30 vs. 3)?

Until anyone other than Heath Miller starts catching TD's for this team more than once every 2 freaking months, I cannot imagine how poor our scoring offense will be if Wallace gets kicked to the curb as many on this board seemingly can't wait to see happen.

$8-9M if you can. The NFL isn't the US Government and teams can't engage in deficit spending. Like I said, if you look at our cap situation there may have been just one $8M contract for a WR and Wallace walked away from it and Brown grabbed it. Doesn't matter what Wallace has done, can do, whatever, if the money isn't there it isn't there.

You keep characterizing anyone who isn't falling over themselves to pay Wallace whatever he wants as "kicking him to the curb" but in reality Wallace has been the only one who has put himself on the path to leaving. He could be locked up right now for the next 5-6 years, but HE chose not to. That isn't fans doing or saying anything that is Wallace making the decisions. I want Wallace to stay but at the price that fits into the teams cap. I jsut don't see that happening if Wallace wants more than he was already offered. That isn't kicking anyone to the curb that is just how it is.

[steelblood]

I say franchise him and negotiate briefly. If he won't sign long term for a reasonable amount (and I know he likely won't), trade him for a 2nd rounder. If we can't get that (and I'd think we would), trade him for a package of middle round picks (like a 3rd, 4th, and a 5th).