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  • Shoe
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4044

    #16
    Haley is the MVP of the team at this point. He's made the offense much more efficient. And consequently (because T.o.P.), he has helped minimize the exposure of a D that can be exploited (despite the rankings).
    I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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    • NorthCoast
      Legend
      • Sep 2008
      • 26636

      #17
      Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
      They say:
      Bruce Arians is doing a bang-up job as Colts' OC/interim HC.

      I say:
      It's been mostly LUCK.

      Nicely done!

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35649

        #18
        Haley "won't be afraid to run up the score" on the Kansas City Chiefs in Week 10

        By Neal Coolong on Nov 7



        ESPN's Adam Schefter mentioned at least a trace of animosity from current Steelers offensive coordinator and former Chiefs head coach as he prepares to face his old team in Week 10.

        ESPN's Adam Schefter said on Sportscenter Wednesday Steelers offensive coordinator "won't be afraid to run up the score" on the Kansas City Chiefs - his former employer - when the teams face each other on Monday Night Football in Week 10.

        It's hard to blame him. Unceremoniously dumped in the middle of the season, Haley was forced to take the brunt of the criticism regarding the Chiefs' bi-polar 2011 season, landing him in Pittsburgh.

        Since then, the Steelers are enjoying an offense that's improving steadily each week, and is among the team's best rushing teams over the course of their three-game winning streak.

        The Chiefs have gone in the opposite direction, coming into the game at 1-7, and having yet to hold a lead for a measurable amount of time. Their lone win came off a game-winning field goal over New Orleans in Week 3.

        Haley's offense has yet to score more than 31 points, a tally that came in a 34-31 loss at Oakland in Week 3. Their new life on the ground seems to indicate a bit fewer points, but more time of possession in the grand scheme of things. Blowout or otherwise, Haley must also remember he was in charge of the team in 2009 and 2010, when the Chiefs upset the Steelers and came within one drive of defeating them at Heinz Field.

        Showing up his former boss has to serve as quality motivation, but it's not likely Haley will break out the team's first vertical passing assault of the season. He'd also have to worry about what his new boss, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin, would feel about that.

        Perhaps, though, he just won't have Ben Roethlisberger take a knee if the Steelers are closing the game out inside the Chiefs' territory.

        [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/11/7/3613654/steelers-chiefs-todd-haley-week-10-nfl-offense-revenge-statistics-scott-pioli[/URL]

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        • RuthlessBurgher
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          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #19
          Let's see, Haley got the Chiefs into the playoffs by winning the AFC West in 2010 with 10-6 record.

          The next year, dealing with early season-ending injuries to his starting QB Matt Cassel, his starting RB Jamaal Charles, his starting TE Tony Moeaki, his starting SS Eric Berry, etc., the team started out 5-8 and he was fired.

          Now they have Cassel, Charles, Moeaki, and Berry all back, and Romeo Crennel has them at 1-7.

          You think he might want to stick it in K.C. management's face a bit? This may be the game where the offense puts up 40+, even without the likes of Antonio Brown and Chris Rainey available.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #20
            Haley wants to put "50" on them. Don't kid yourself. This is personal for him no matter what PC things he says. It would be for anyone in his situation.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • Djfan
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 5184

              #21
              The nonstop arguing on all Steelers boards about BA's scheme and maximizing for the talent here is proven out. All Haley does is look at the amazing level of talent we have, then size up the strengths and weaknesses of the opponent, and builds a ball control offense for that game. Rocket science, huh? I said on this board many times that ANY OC would die to have the talent we have.

              BA was the problem.
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              • fezziwig
                Hall of Famer
                • Jan 2009
                • 3515

                #22
                Originally posted by Dee Dub
                I think Haley's offense has a lot to do with it, however I also feel as if some of these guys like Foster are starting to come into their own. Also, Max Starks has been playing is best football this year.
                yes, they have both proved to be better than prior but, i believe it goes back to the title of this thread and the haley factor.

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                • Djfan
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 5184

                  #23
                  Originally posted by fezziwig
                  yes, they have both proved to be better than prior but, i believe it goes back to the title of this thread and the haley factor.
                  The Haley offense hides their weaknesses. BA always had the long developing plays, which exposed the O line. Haley doesn't do this. True we have better players on the line, but there are better lines out there than ours. Haley schemes to not depend on them much.
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                  • fezziwig
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3515

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Djfan
                    The nonstop arguing on all Steelers boards about BA's scheme and maximizing for the talent here is proven out. All Haley does is look at the amazing level of talent we have, then size up the strengths and weaknesses of the opponent, and builds a ball control offense for that game. Rocket science, huh? I said on this board many times that ANY OC would die to have the talent we have.

                    BA was the problem.
                    Yes he was and Tomlin didn't seem to notice it. Possibly Tomlin knows so little of offenses he thought Arians was the only voice of reason. Some people were upset that Art Rooney spoke out about the offense. The same Art Rooney the writes the checks, voiced his frustration after the 2003 season that, he is ready to win another Super Bowl. In all my Steeler years of being a fan these are the only two times I heard any of the Rooneys speak negative about the team or at least comment they want to see better days. The same team that has only seen three head coaches in the last thirty and some years. The Rooneys do not leap before they look.
                    Art Rooney knew Arians was the problem, made comment on it and nothing changed in the offense. Rooney like everyone else knew Ben couldn't possibly survive many season of being every defenses whipping post.
                    Ever since Haley has taken over the offense looks proffesional, looks to be incharge. When Arians was incharge the offense looked helter skelter each play with o-linemen being thrown to the ground, receivers breaking routes because Ben is running for his life and so on.

                    The last two or thre years if not longer I was probably driving everyone nuts that I wanted Arians gone. Last season I vowed if Arians was the OC this season I would turn my negative attention to Tomlin and scream for him to get fired. Thank God for Art Rooney and his wisdom.

                    And yes, ARIANS WAS THE PROBLEM AND OUR ONLY OFFENSIVE QUALITY CAME FROM BEN BEING ABLE TO BE A SUPER STAR !!!!!!!!

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                    • fezziwig
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3515

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Djfan
                      The Haley offense hides their weaknesses. BA always had the long developing plays, which exposed the O line. Haley doesn't do this. True we have better players on the line, but there are better lines out there than ours. Haley schemes to not depend on them much.
                      i'm fine with that

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                      • Djfan
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 5184

                        #26
                        Nicely said Fezz. I was fighting the "WTH Tomlin!" urges myself. Glad I don't have to anymore.
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                        • Sugar
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 3700

                          #27
                          I understand what people are saying in regard to BA. However, when you have the kind of numbers that Ben and the WR's have had it's hard to fire someone like that. It was obviously hard for the Steelers to do because of the way they did it. It probably just looked like they needed to tweak their redzone O since it seemed like they could march between the 20's with impunity.

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                          • pittpete
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                            • Aug 2008
                            • 6825

                            #28
                            ARIANS

                            HALEY
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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #29
                              The Haley offense hides their weaknesses. BA always had the long developing plays, which exposed the O line. Haley doesn't do this. True we have better players on the line, but there are better lines out there than ours. Haley schemes to not depend on them much.
                              Originally posted by Sugar
                              I understand what people are saying in regard to BA. However, when you have the kind of numbers that Ben and the WR's have had it's hard to fire someone like that. It was obviously hard for the Steelers to do because of the way they did it. It probably just looked like they needed to tweak their redzone O since it seemed like they could march between the 20's with impunity.
                              Again, not to sit and harp on Arians, but this was interesting (from a piece by Wexell):

                              Dwyer believes the running game turned around three weeks ago against Cincinnati because offensive coordinator Todd Haley “found runs that best fit us, found runs the linemen like and we like as running backs."
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • fezziwig
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3515

                                #30
                                Originally posted by pittpete
                                ARIANS

                                HALEY

                                I believe pittpete tells it best

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