Checking out sack stats...I find this interesting...

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  • D Rock
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    • Dec 2008
    • 2797

    Checking out sack stats...I find this interesting...

    Big Ben has only taken 10 sacks in 5 games this year...that's a pace for 32 on the season, when he typically takes 35-45 (or is on pace for such numbers based on how many games he plays).

    then I looked at the numbers for the leagues sack leaders....there are a ridiculous amount of guys on pace for 10+ sacks. Even more than that, I am shocked by how many guys are becoming sack-a-game players. Now I know that the 'pace' at this point doesn't mean much - having one 3-sack game will pretty much get you there - but I will definitely be keeping an eye on this over the rest of the season. If the number of elite sack artists truly is up this year, and Ben really does keep his sack numbers down around 32, then hopefully he finally is truly changing his style of play a little bit!
  • flippy
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    • Dec 2008
    • 17088

    #2
    And a lot of Ben's sacks happened early in the season. I was wondering the other day if Haley's helped him find that fine line. Because Ben is being like Ben on 3rd down more than ever to keep plays alive. But he's not taking so many sacks recently.

    There's not a lot to go on just yet. And it might just be the quality of opponents recently.
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    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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      • May 2008
      • 10267

      #3
      We are facing a real pass rush this week. Let us see how this works out.
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      • Sugar
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        • Oct 2008
        • 3700

        #4
        Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
        We are facing a real pass rush this week. Let us see how this works out.
        Yeah, if the Bengals can do one thing really great it's rush the passer.

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        • D Rock
          Hall of Famer
          • Dec 2008
          • 2797

          #5
          Originally posted by flippy
          And a lot of Ben's sacks happened early in the season. I was wondering the other day if Haley's helped him find that fine line. Because Ben is being like Ben on 3rd down more than ever to keep plays alive. But he's not taking so many sacks recently.

          There's not a lot to go on just yet. And it might just be the quality of opponents recently.

          That's most likely what it is, but I like to dream a little. Hey! Maybe these teams all have such bad sack numbers BECAUSE they played the Steelers!


          League Leader - GB with 21 sacks
          Leauge Loser - Jacksonville with 3 sacks.


          Teams the Steelers have played:

          Denver - 18 total sacks (Tied for 5th in the NFL) - 5 sacks against Pittsburgh
          NY Jets - 9 total, 27th in NFL, 3 against Pittsburgh
          Oakland - 4 total, 31st in NFL, 1 against Pittsburgh
          Philly - 7 total, 30th in NFL, 0 against Pittsburgh
          Tennessee - 8 total, 28th in NFL, 1 against Pittsburgh

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          • RuthlessBurgher
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            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            Originally posted by D Rock
            That's most likely what it is, but I like to dream a little. Hey! Maybe these teams all have such bad sack numbers BECAUSE they played the Steelers!


            League Leader - GB with 21 sacks
            Leauge Loser - Jacksonville with 3 sacks.


            Teams the Steelers have played:

            Denver - 18 total sacks (Tied for 5th in the NFL) - 5 sacks against Pittsburgh
            NY Jets - 9 total, 27th in NFL, 3 against Pittsburgh
            Oakland - 4 total, 31st in NFL, 1 against Pittsburgh
            Philly - 7 total, 30th in NFL, 0 against Pittsburgh
            Tennessee - 8 total, 28th in NFL, 1 against Pittsburgh
            And three of the Denver sacks were on consecutive plays in garbage time since Ben was in desperation mode (i.e. not playing within the usual confines of the offensive system) after throwing the pick 6. So, essentially, when running the Haley offense, Ben's only been sacked 7 times in 5 games (being sacked only twice in the last 3 games is pretty impressive, especially considering the OL injuries of late).
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • Oviedo
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              • May 2008
              • 23816

              #7
              Originally posted by D Rock
              then I looked at the numbers for the leagues sack leaders....there are a ridiculous amount of guys on pace for 10+ sacks.
              The problem is not too many of these guys are Steelers. We have really fallen back in the pack WRT our sack ability.
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                • May 2008
                • 10267

                #8
                Our sack leader is......Jason Worilds with 3.
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                • D Rock
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2797

                  #9
                  Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                  Our sack leader is......Jason Worilds with 3.
                  That puts him on pace for 9.5 this year...and he has done it without multiple sack games that drive numbers up. If he can keep it up, then maybe he finally has some value after all.

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                  • Mister Pittsburgh
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                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3674

                    #10
                    We have 11 sacks. That is very poor for a supposed attacking 3-4 team with the inventor of the zone blitz running the show. One thing I have wondered about Lebeau...can a 70+ year old man really spend the necessary time needed to study his opponent & gameplan accordingly? We heard players say this year that we do the same things year after year, game after game. It seems to me like the only time we really look good on defense is after a bad loss.....does he spend more time in that scenario?
                    Last edited by Mister Pittsburgh; 10-19-2012, 06:35 PM.
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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
                      • 35635

                      #11
                      I think LeBeau's problem for awhile now is that he plays not to lose...

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                      • papillon
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 11340

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        I think LeBeau's problem for awhile now is that he plays not to lose...
                        And, it didn't hurt to have a healthy Polamalu, Harrison, Aaron Smith, and James Farrior, just sayin.

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                        • SidSmythe
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                          • Sep 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                          We have 11 sacks. That is very poor for a supposed attacking 3-4 team with the inventor of the zone blitz running the show. One thing I have wondered about Lebeau...can a 70+ year old man really spend the necessary time needed to study his opponent & gameplan accordingly? We heard players say this year that we do the same things year after year, game after game. It seems to me like the only time we really look good on defense is after a bad loss.....does he spend more time in that scenario?
                          I bet that 70 yr old man could kick the crap outta you. Just sayin'!!
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                          • Mister Pittsburgh
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                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3674

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SidSmythe
                            I bet that 70 yr old man could kick the crap outta you. Just sayin'!!
                            No disrespect to DL but I would accept that bet. You have no idea who I am.

                            Secondly, DL's toughness has nothing to do with what I said.
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                            • Oviedo
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                              • May 2008
                              • 23816

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                              No disrespect to DL but I would accept that bet. You have no idea who I am.

                              Secondly, DL's toughness has nothing to do with what I said.
                              Maybe if the old guy is so tough he should put on a uniform and go sack someone because his playcalling isn't helping.
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