Depressing Reality: Colbert/Tomlin's drafts have sucked a bit

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  • stopplayn
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    • Sep 2012
    • 423

    #61
    I'm just being honest if other dont choose to do so then thats their choice. After all the KKK wore hoods for a reason. They didnt want anyone to know. Perspective

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    • virgilbosetti
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      • Aug 2010
      • 136

      #62
      Wow. All these bash this guy, praise that guy stuff. Cowher wasnt perfect but how can some talk like he's a complete joke? He's a future HOF coach. He orchestrated years and years of dominant Steeler football that we all came to know and love. This happened, by the way, after 7/8 really bad years with Noll. Cowher's systems and decisions won right away....but some of you say don't give him credit....they were Noll's players. Really???

      Bash him all you want but if you are going to blame him for EVERY organizational fault that you can think of during his tenure, then he should get huge credit for every single thing that went great. Neither are very logical.....can't have it both ways.

      Not trying to offend anyone here, nor am I trying to change anyone's opinions to that of my own. Just my opinion.
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      • stopplayn
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        • Sep 2012
        • 423

        #63
        Cowher is not a Hall of Fame coach. Sorry

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        • SDSteel1
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          • Sep 2012
          • 126

          #64
          Originally posted by stopplayn
          I'm just being honest if other dont choose to do so then thats their choice. After all the KKK wore hoods for a reason. They didnt want anyone to know. Perspective
          Who knew Al Sharpton was a Steeler fan?:0

          You don't have a case Rev. If it were politics I would give you a pass, but Steeler fans love their players no matter what their color, but they will bash anyone on a dime for a missed tackle or a holding call. Just because you root for your own color and you take offense when Steeler fans bash the coach or player that is the same color as you, just shows that maybe you are the racist who sees colors instead of numbers. Just sayin....

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          • virgilbosetti
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            • Aug 2010
            • 136

            #65
            We finally agree. No he isn't. That is why I clearly said "future" HOF coach.
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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35651

              #66
              Originally posted by stopplayn
              Cowher is not a Hall of Fame coach. Sorry
              I always liked The Chin, but he probably needed to win more than one Super Bowl in 15 seasons to be a Hall of Fame coach.

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              • stopplayn
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                • Sep 2012
                • 423

                #67
                Originally posted by SDSteel1
                Who knew Al Sharpton was a Steeler fan?:0

                You don't have a case Rev. If it were politics I would give you a pass, but Steeler fans love their players no matter what their color, but they will bash anyone on a dime for a missed tackle or a holding call. Just because you root for your own color and you take offense when Steeler fans bash the coach or player that is the same color as you, just shows that maybe you are the racist who sees colors instead of numbers. Just sayin....
                The typical guy with "issues" always assums that I am black, when I have clearly stated that my OWN issues had to be brought to my attention by a buddy. Sorry I'm no Sharpton. I prefer David Duke, Mitt Romney, George W. those types. I just dont hide behind the bs. I am white so I am privvy to all of the racial names directed at Tomlin. IF you dont think that his Color is an issue with some people then that is your opinion. I know different. Many people at Steeler games HATED Bruce Arians but NOT ONCE have I ever heard him called an epithet. Tomlin doesnt get that benefit. Lastly, I and not a Tomlin fan. I just tell the truth as I see it. Actually, wanted us to hire Brian Billick but he wasnt available.

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                • stopplayn
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                  • Sep 2012
                  • 423

                  #68
                  Originally posted by virgilbosetti
                  We finally agree. No he isn't. That is why I clearly said "future" HOF coach.
                  What is he getting in on? ONE Super Bowl? Not likely

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                  • stopplayn
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                    • Sep 2012
                    • 423

                    #69
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    I always liked The Chin, but he probably needed to win more than one Super Bowl in 15 seasons to be a Hall of Fame coach.
                    Agreed. And all of the Home Field AFCCG's he lost wont help either

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                    • Steelhere10
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 3849

                      #70
                      Originally posted by lloydroid
                      Ummmm, he inherited Rod Woodson, Kirkland, Lake, Hardy Nickerson, Lloyd, Steed, Darren Perry, DJ Johnson, Jerry O - not a bad base of players, for sure.
                      Some of these posters don't even follow the Steelers. Probably joined the wagon after a couple of SB titles!
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                      • Steelhere10
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3849

                        #71
                        And to be honest Cowerd had more Pro Bowlers to start his tenure than Tomlin. And his strategy to play not to lose, is one reason we have to sit here as fans and listen to how Bellicheat was such a genius....
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                        • virgilbosetti
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                          • Aug 2010
                          • 136

                          #72
                          Come on. In two SB's, 8 or 9 divisons, 10 playoffs, at least one AP coach of the year. He probably won't get in this term, but he's going. Some said he would have been in before XL. He's going.
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                          • SDSteel1
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                            • Sep 2012
                            • 126

                            #73
                            Originally posted by stopplayn
                            The typical guy with "issues" always assums that I am black, when I have clearly stated that my OWN issues had to be brought to my attention by a buddy. Sorry I'm no Sharpton. I prefer David Duke, Mitt Romney, George W. those types. I just dont hide behind the bs. I am white so I am privvy to all of the racial names directed at Tomlin. IF you dont think that his Color is an issue with some people then that is your opinion. I know different. Many people at Steeler games HATED Bruce Arians but NOT ONCE have I ever heard him called an epithet. Tomlin doesnt get that benefit. Lastly, I and not a Tomlin fan. I just tell the truth as I see it. Actually, wanted us to hire Brian Billick but he wasnt available.
                            I don't have issues, and I don't care if you are white or black, or purple, you are still race baiting, and just because you sit around people who use racial epithets it doesn't make Steeler fans who are critical of certain players racist. In my opinion you are still a racist even if you are white.

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                            • stopplayn
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                              • Sep 2012
                              • 423

                              #74
                              Me a racist? I have ADMITTED that I had issues as they were brought to my attention. I acknowledged them (I didnt know honestly. Or didnt realize). Those people I sit around are STEELER FANS. I'm a season ticket holder.

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                              • BigRob
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 1381

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                                Some have been saying this for years, but have been called idiots by 'The real fans'. It's clear that Cowher was superior at choosing players compared to Tomlin. Colbert is the common denominator.

                                i feel the 3-4 is tougher to fill out compared to the 4-3. Back 10 years ago when we drafted a majority of our Superbowl winning vets, not near as many teams ran the 3-4 so we had more of a selection in the later rounds.
                                I haven't had a good internet connection for a day or so, but part I of this article was comparing Cowhers first five years of drafting to Tomlins. Cowher actually fared much worse his first five years. That gives me hope that Tomlin can improve his evaluations.
                                Here comes the BOOM!
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