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  • BigRob
    Pro Bowler
    • Jul 2008
    • 1381

    How about Worilds?

    Don't know if he can play the run, but looking like he can at least rush the passer some. 3 sacks on the year in 5 games coming off injury.
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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Worilds has never been as bad as his detractors make him out to be. His only fault is that he isn't a white LB from Penn State.
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    • pittpete
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      • Aug 2008
      • 6825

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      • phillyesq
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 7568

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Worilds has never been as bad as his detractors make him out to be. His only fault is that he isn't a white LB from Penn State.
        That is a straw man argument.

        I generally like Worilds, but his fault is not that he isn't a white LB from PSU - his issue is that he cannot stay healthy.

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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #5
          Originally posted by phillyesq
          That is a straw man argument.

          I generally like Worilds, but his fault is not that he isn't a white LB from PSU - his issue is that he cannot stay healthy.
          Plus he has a Defensive Player of the Year in front of him on one side and a Pro Bowl player on the other side. But then again it's not like Woodley and Harrison have been pillars of health either.
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          • Dee Dub
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2010
            • 4652

            #6
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Plus he has a Defensive Player of the Year in front of him on one side and a Pro Bowl player on the other side. But then again it's not like Woodley and Harrison have been pillars of health either.
            Not next year. James Harrison saves the team $5.1 Million if cut before 1 June and $6.5 after. At 34, having injury issues, plus the Steelers being close to $30 million over the cap next year, he is as good as gone.

            Next year?

            Worilds, Te'o, Timmons, and Woodley
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            • BigRob
              Pro Bowler
              • Jul 2008
              • 1381

              #7
              Originally posted by Dee Dub
              Not next year. James Harrison saves the team $5.1 Million if cut before 1 June and $6.5 after. At 34, having injury issues, plus the Steelers being close to $30 million over the cap next year, he is as good as gone.

              Next year?

              Worilds, Te'o, Timmons, and Woodley
              People don't realize that Worilds has had only one true offseason in 3 years. He was hurt one offseason, lockout one, let's see how he develops this season and over the next offseason. If he can stay healthy he has the physical tools to succeed. The question is whether you move Woodley over to Harrison's spot or Worilds.
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              • Oviedo
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                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #8
                Originally posted by Dee Dub
                Not next year. James Harrison saves the team $5.1 Million if cut before 1 June and $6.5 after. At 34, having injury issues, plus the Steelers being close to $30 million over the cap next year, he is as good as gone.

                Next year?

                Worilds, Te'o, Timmons, and Woodley
                It won't be that way since Woodley will be playing DE in our new 4-3 once LeBeau is pushed out the door. Te'o would be a great add.

                Who knows, maybe Woodley is DE on one side of the 4-3 and Worilds on the other side!!!!!!
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                • steelblood
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 4166

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigRob
                  Don't know if he can play the run, but looking like he can at least rush the passer some. 3 sacks on the year in 5 games coming off injury.
                  I don't have a problem with Worilds. He is ok. But, his total of 3 sacks in 3 games is very misleading. 2 of Worilds sacks (in earlier games) came when he was schemed open on blitzes. He was unblocked on both. I don't think I could give him much credit for those (there were very easy plays). Last night he pressured the QB a couple of times (got a sack when he cleaned up after Keisel missed the QB), but generally he was just as ineffective at pass rushing as anyone else. We got no pressure 95 % of the time when we rushed with 4 men. That is pathetic. Changes need to be made. McClendon must play more for Hampton on first and second and for Hood on 3rd down. As long as Woodley is out, Adrian Robinson should be activated and given a shot on 3rd downs. He certainly couldn't do worse. Heyward should play more. We need younger hungry pass rushers who are capable of getting past offensive linemen with quickness and athleticism.
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                  • RuthlessBurgher
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                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    Worilds has never been as bad as his detractors make him out to be. His only fault is that he isn't a white LB from Penn State.
                    It's interesting that a white LB from Penn State was probably the man most responsible for the loss last night (Tim Shaw's blocked punt changed the whole complexion of that game).
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                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

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                    • SidSmythe
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4708

                      #11
                      Stats don't tell the whole story.
                      IF I recall right, Worilds got 2 sacks from being unblocked and 1 sack where the QB was under pressure and he got a mop up sack.

                      A pass rusher needs to be disruptive. I hardly notice him out there vs the run or just getting pressure on the QB.
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                      • SDSteel1
                        Backup
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 126

                        #12
                        He was more dominant than Harrison was last night.

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                        • DBR96A
                          Backup
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 469

                          #13
                          Originally posted by steelblood
                          I don't have a problem with Worilds. He is ok. But, his total of 3 sacks in 3 games is very misleading. 2 of Worilds sacks (in earlier games) came when he was schemed open on blitzes. He was unblocked on both. I don't think I could give him much credit for those (there were very easy plays).
                          I've seen plenty of unblocked defenders whiff on QBs before, so you have to credit him for actually bringing the QBs down once he gets to them.
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                          • BigRob
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1381

                            #14
                            Profootball focus says the following: Worilds was the only one bringing pressure last night.

                            Outside linebackers Jason Worlids and James Harrison could only combine to record four pressures, with three of them (1 Sk, 1 Ht, 1 Hu) coming from the third-year backup. .
                            [URL]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/12/refo-steelers-titans-week-6/[/URL]

                            Not saying he's a stud. Just saying it's not time to give up on him yet.
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                            • Steelerphile
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1198

                              #15
                              I knew there would be people who would make an issue about how he supposedly gets sacks unblocked, like he now should not get credit for them. That is a talent in itself. The good ones find the opportunity to come in unblocked and the not-so-good ones dont. Did you see Carter getting sacks unblocked? No Worilds reads those situations well. He sees that opening, delays just enough and then has a good burst so that he can get to the QB. That is a an attribute to be praised not to discredit him. Other LBs could find those if they were aware enough, but they don't.

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