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  • Dee Dub
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    #16
    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
    Larry Foote may be our defensive MVP so far this season, today he had 8 tackles along with 2 fumble recoveries.
    The fumble recoveries were gifts. He didnt create any of them. He has 2 tackles for loss in 4 games. All these tackles Foote is making are several yards deep into the Steelers defensive side of the ball. He isnt making them at the LOS or behind the LOS.
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    • Eddie Spaghetti
      Hall of Famer
      • Jul 2008
      • 4123

      #17
      could not disagree more.

      foote has been extremely solid this year.

      maybe your wish for an ILB is clouding your judgement.

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      • Dee Dub
        Hall of Famer
        • Jan 2010
        • 4652

        #18
        Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
        could not disagree more.

        foote has been extremely solid this year.

        maybe your wish for an ILB is clouding your judgement.
        What "influences" me in what I know the Steelers need as far as improvements is the sub-par to below play of certain players. Like Foote and Ike Taylor. To me these are the major weak links on this defense. Teams are now running right at the Steelers and not away from them. The Steelers rank 14th in stopping the run and two of the teams they have played (Oakland and the NY Jets), are two of the worst rushing teams in the league (32nd and 24th respectively). This problem is going to become magnified when they play a better running team like Baltimore.
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        • Eddie Spaghetti
          Hall of Famer
          • Jul 2008
          • 4123

          #19
          and I would say foote and clark are the only 2 players that have played consistent football this year.

          everyone else has been below the line, IMO.

          apples and oranges I guess, but to single foote out, seems absurd to me.

          maybe teams are running right at the DL? Kiesel in particular has been awful.

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 35649

            #20
            the reason why I would love to see us draft an ILB like Minter or Te'o in Round 1 is because Larry Foote will be 33 years old next season and a successor needs to be groomed soon.

            we all know how long it takes to grasp the intricacies of Dick LeBeau's defense...

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            • Dee Dub
              Hall of Famer
              • Jan 2010
              • 4652

              #21
              Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
              and I would say foote and clark are the only 2 players that have played consistent football this year.

              everyone else has been below the line, IMO.

              apples and oranges I guess, but to single foote out, seems absurd to me.

              maybe teams are running right at the DL? Kiesel in particular has been awful.
              Eddie I agree with you about Ryan Clark. I have been critical of him in the past for his lack of cover skills but he has actually shown a lot of improvement in his overall game. And yes, Kiesel has lost a step. He isnt what he once was either. Larry Foote to me was never more than an average football player and now at 32 he is worse than that. You will see as this season progresses.
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              • NJ-STEELER
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #22
                Originally posted by Dee Dub
                Another??? Are your you serious? The Steelers have done that once (Timmons), in over 35 years. And I am not talking about just any ILB, I am talking about adding an elite one like T'eo or maybe even Minter. Have you noticed how well teams can run on the Steelers now? Watch game tape exclusively of Larry Foote and you will be begging for a new ILB for the Steelers.
                im no great fan of foote, but he's had a better year then timmons thus far


                and yes, there are other rounds in the draft too. i wouldnt even look at ILB in the 1st round

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                • NJ-STEELER
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 12563

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Dee Dub
                  I guess we are watching two different games. I see Foote getting engulfed at the POA and takes horrible angles away from him towards the sideline. And usually when Foote is making his tackles they are 7-10 years down the field. The Steelers need better than that from their ILB.
                  you've just described timmons season up until today, except for the tackles part

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                  • Oviedo
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #24
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    it would be great to land either Manti Te'o or Kevin Minter in Round 1 and then address the safety position in Round 2. our defense is in desperate need of some playmakers...
                    Given that Troy couldn't even make it through one half of football I'm not sure we can wait until Round 2 for a Safety.
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      #25
                      Foote has been solid...but, certainly not spectacular...

                      That's how Foote has lasted as long as he has in the league...he does what he is supposed to do and is where he is supposed to be...

                      As long as that's all you expect of him, Foote is fine...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • Dee Dub
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4652

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        Foote has been solid...but, certainly not spectacular...

                        That's how Foote has lasted as long as he has in the league...he does what he is supposed to do and is where he is supposed to be...

                        As long as that's all you expect of him, Foote is fine...
                        Slap, go back to yesterdays game and watch what I think are 3 of the 4 more critical plays on defense for the Steelers. The two 4th and inches plays where Andy Reid went for it and the pass play to McCoy in the flat. Larry Foote is really not where he should have been. On 4th and inches I would love to have my ILB shooting the gap/penetrating to clog the holes but on both he is standing behind the piles on both plays as an absolute non-factor. Then on the Shady McCoy 15 yard TD reception, prior to snap Timmons moves into the gap between the center and right guard. With a 3 WR set to the left and a single back that means Foote has the flat to the right. Right at the snap Foote comes flying forward which completely takes him out of any proper angle for the flat. And that is all she wrote as McCoy caught him over pursuing and juked him out of his socks inside. I want more from the ILB for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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                        1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                        • Dee Dub
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 4652

                          #27
                          By the way, on that play (the 15 yard TD by McCoy), the amazing thing is Lawrence Timmons actually caught him from behind and tackled in the end zone. Timmons is blitzing all the way. He shoots the gap, gets engaged with a 300lb plus right guard, comes off of it, and then chases McCoy down from behind. Albeit a little late but still a very impressive show of Timmons athleticism.
                          Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                          1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Dee Dub
                            Slap, go back to yesterdays game and watch what I think are 3 of the 4 more critical plays on defense for the Steelers. The two 4th and inches plays where Andy Reid went for it and the pass play to McCoy in the flat. Larry Foote is really not where he should have been. On 4th and inches I would love to have my ILB shooting the gap/penetrating to clog the holes but on both he is standing behind the piles on both plays as an absolute non-factor. Then on the Shady McCoy 15 yard TD reception, prior to snap Timmons moves into the gap between the center and right guard. With a 3 WR set to the left and a single back that means Foote has the flat to the right. Right at the snap Foote comes flying forward which completely takes him out of any proper angle for the flat. And that is all she wrote as McCoy caught him over pursuing and juked him out of his socks inside. I want more from the ILB for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
                            Oh. I don't doubt that...

                            But, I'm referring to Larry Foote's career...not to mention the earlier games this year...if all the defenders played against the Broncos like Foote, we would have smoked them...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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