Ben was Huge for 3 Quarters

[stopplayn]

you give ben anyone of those offenses (aside from SD and denver..what have they done recently) and he'll put up more points and "look good"

thats how there teams are built. atlanta last year traded up to #6 to draft one of the top receivers in the draft. someone who can beat even double teams with his size and speed.

and get this. they already had a good #1 receiver in roddy white

yet, mr eltie amtt ryan got shut out in the playoffs last year

And Ben got beat by TIM TEBOW. Ryan is better and smarter than Ben.

[stopplayn]

Except in those last two SBs Brady played in...

I definitely heard some "offensive woes"...

You mean those two Super Bowls where Brady put his team up and the defense let the Giants come back and score? See the hypocrisy? Brady is a loser but when Ben does it under the same circumstances its the DEFENSES FAULT. When Brady does it, its Bradys fault.

This post is Exhibit A.

[NJ-STEELER]

brady's offense in that 1st SB loss was setting records for points scored and then went on to post 14 points

you think that is playing up to the standard that year

[NJ-STEELER]

Ryan is better and smarter than Ben.

im sure you think that. im sure you think 2/3 or maybe more of the QBs in the league are better then ben

[Slapstick]

You mean those two Super Bowls where Brady put his team up and the defense let the Giants come back and score? See the hypocrisy? Brady is a loser but when Ben does it under the same circumstances its the DEFENSES FAULT. When Brady does it, its Bradys fault.

This post is Exhibit A.

There are a couple of things wrong with your post...

1) I never said Brady was a loser. The dude has three rings. He's not a loser. You said that, not me...

2) I did say "offensive woes". The 2007 Patriots were 16-0 and averaged nearly 37 points per game. In the SB, they put up 14. Hence, "offensive woes".

3) The 2011 Patriots averaged over 32 points per game and put up 17 in the SB. See #2.

4) One of us started this thread entitled, "Ben Was Huge For 3 Quarters" and started the original post with, "But it's a 4 quarter game." So, you specifically started this post to rip Bren Roethlisberger, but defend Brady for losing in a similar circumstance...

You, sir, are the hypocrite...your own post was Exhibit A...

[Captain Lemming]

There are a couple of things wrong with your post...

1) I never said Brady was a loser. The dude has three rings. He's not a loser. You said that, not me...

2) I did say "offensive woes". The 2007 Patriots were 16-0 and averaged nearly 37 points per game. In the SB, they put up 14. Hence, "offensive woes".

3) The 2011 Patriots averaged over 32 points per game and put up 17 in the SB. See #2.

4) One of us started this thread entitled, "Ben Was Huge For 3 Quarters" and started the original post with, "But it's a 4 quarter game." So, you specifically started this post to rip Bren Roethlisberger, but defend Brady for losing in a similar circumstance...

You, sir, are the hypocrite...your own post was Exhibit A...

Ouch......backatcha post using sweet logic........that must STING.

[Slapstick]

Ouch......backatcha post using sweet logic........that must STING.

Typing it almost made my eyes water...and it's my post!!

[feltdizz]

troy has been less then average (considering his talent level) in 3 SBs as well

but, if someone came on here and said he sucks. i would defend him. i think most steeler fans would

Troy hasn't performed well in SB's... and it wouldn't make sense to tout his play in those SB's if you were comparing him to another safety with 3 rings and 2 SB losses. (if that makes any sense, lol)

and I don't think stopplayin believes what he types.. he likes the attention.

[stopplayn]

brady's offense in that 1st SB loss was setting records for points scored and then went on to post 14 points

you think that is playing up to the standard that year

You mean when Brady was a youngster? Brady still have better stats than Ben did when he was younger. If you want to compare Ben to Brady this will be easy. Oh by the way. The NFL players say that Brady is better than Ben. Fact

[stopplayn]

There are a couple of things wrong with your post...

1) I never said Brady was a loser. The dude has three rings. He's not a loser. You said that, not me...

2) I did say "offensive woes". The 2007 Patriots were 16-0 and averaged nearly 37 points per game. In the SB, they put up 14. Hence, "offensive woes".

3) The 2011 Patriots averaged over 32 points per game and put up 17 in the SB. See #2.

4) One of us started this thread entitled, "Ben Was Huge For 3 Quarters" and started the original post with, "But it's a 4 quarter game." So, you specifically started this post to rip Bren Roethlisberger, but defend Brady for losing in a similar circumstance...

You, sir, are the hypocrite...your own post was Exhibit A...

Offensive woes dont come about after ONE game. Offensive woes come about over a period of time.Brady has has Weis, Mcdaniel and Obrien as OC and it has never hindered him. Brady is the PRIMARY reason the Pats are elite. The defense is the reason the Steelers are elite. How many team MVPS does Ben have? Its seems the Steelers view him as I do. Good but not elite. I didnt rip Ben. You view it as ripping because you HATE what I say about Ben ( YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH).Brady keeps his team in the game vs the Giants. Ben played those SAME Giants in 08 and had FIVE turnovers and we lost big. Put Bens stats vs the Giants up and compare them to Bradys. TELL ME WHAT YOU FIND LOL

[stopplayn]

Troy hasn't performed well in SB's... and it wouldn't make sense to tout his play in those SB's if you were comparing him to another safety with 3 rings and 2 SB losses. (if that makes any sense, lol)

and I don't think stopplayin believes what he types.. he likes the attention.

Sounds like you're are hating

[stopplayn]

Troy hasn't performed well in SB's... and it wouldn't make sense to tout his play in those SB's if you were comparing him to another safety with 3 rings and 2 SB losses. (if that makes any sense, lol)

and I don't think stopplayin believes what he types.. he likes the attention.

How did Troy play poorly in SB 40? Do explain. In SB 43 and 45 he was injured and according to Wizenhunt made then run the ball more in the 1st half (trying to avoid Troy). Rodgers avoided Troy and targeted Clark. Too bad you all are die hard fans and dont understand the intricasies of a scheme. YOU DONT HAVE TO MAKE PLAYS to have an effect on Defense. Troy's mere pressence make a difference in where you will attack. Did you see Peyton Manning in week 1? The REST of the league has the same respect for Polamalu just check every poll. Why doesnt Ben get the same respect from his peers?

[stopplayn]

If you dont see Joe Flacco improving at a faster pace than our Qb then you are BLIND

[ikestops85]

If you dont see Joe Flacco improving at a faster pace than our Qb then you are BLIND

You might think Flacco is improving at a faster pace but in reality it's just that he was so far behind Ben from the start.

[feltdizz]

How did Troy play poorly in SB 40? Do explain. In SB 43 and 45 he was injured and according to Wizenhunt made then run the ball more in the 1st half (trying to avoid Troy). Rodgers avoided Troy and targeted Clark. Too bad you all are die hard fans and dont understand the intricasies of a scheme. YOU DONT HAVE TO MAKE PLAYS to have an effect on Defense. Troy's mere pressence make a difference in where you will attack. Did you see Peyton Manning in week 1? The REST of the league has the same respect for Polamalu just check every poll. Why doesnt Ben get the same respect from his peers?

lol... if someone pointed out the game planning and defensive schemes teams had to run to defend against a second year QB who is the size of a LB you wouldn't allow it.


We weren't even discussing presence.. we were talking about playing up to ones standards