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  • virgilbosetti
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    • Aug 2010
    • 136

    #61
    Now walk through the door. I'm waiting.
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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27564

      #62
      Originally posted by Dee Dub
      What a lot of Ben haters forget about when it comes to that Super Bowl in 2005 was what Ben did the 3 games prior. All on the road. He nearly carried his team to that Super Bowl.

      42-72 in passing at 68.3% for 680 yards and 7 TD's to only 1 INT and he also ran for another TD.
      Does the games leading up to the SB apply to all QB's or just Ben?

      Ben is having a great year, has a great career as well... but any fan who defends his SB performances (outside of the last drive in 200 is smoking the crack.

      It would be nice for the amazing Ben to show up in SB's from pregame to the last snap but it hasn't happened yet. He definitely gets credit for our success these last 8 years but the SB's(outside of the last drive in 200 were subpar performances considering his talent level.
      Steelers 27
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      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        #63
        It isn't a matter of simply having a good game...SB champions, like Ben, make decisive plays at critical points during those big games...

        Although his passer rating was, like, 22 in XL, Ben definitely made critical throws and runs when he had to...
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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        • virgilbosetti
          Backup
          • Aug 2010
          • 136

          #64
          Originally posted by slapstick
          it isn't a matter of simply having a good game...sb champions, like ben, make decisive plays at critical points during those big games...

          Although his passer rating was, like, 22 in xl, ben definitely made critical throws and runs when he had to...
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          • eniparadoxgma
            Pro Bowler
            • May 2008
            • 2193

            #65
            Originally posted by virgilbosetti
            Now walk through the door. I'm waiting.
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            • stopplayn
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              • Sep 2012
              • 423

              #66
              Originally posted by virgilbosetti
              But it doesn't change the fact that without his stellar play they would have never made it to the SB. Either way.....Sunday's game is a no brainier. Turnovers. Penalties and horrendous D.
              Thats an absolute statement. Do you have absolute proof that we wouldnt have made it without Ben? Lets see, the Ravens and Bucs can win a SB with Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson but we cant win one with Leftwich or Batch. You are dellusional.

              Its ironic that non of you mentioned the THREE picks that Ben threw right to Raider Linebackers and they all dropped them. Ben should have had 3 picks. But I digress

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              • stopplayn
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                • Sep 2012
                • 423

                #67
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Does the games leading up to the SB apply to all QB's or just Ben?

                Ben is having a great year, has a great career as well... but any fan who defends his SB performances (outside of the last drive in 200 is smoking the crack.

                It would be nice for the amazing Ben to show up in SB's from pregame to the last snap but it hasn't happened yet. He definitely gets credit for our success these last 8 years but the SB's(outside of the last drive in 200 were subpar performances considering his talent level.
                Just to Ben. Its sheer hypocrisy. When Peyton Manning plays well (Or Brady) leading up to the SB but lose, then they are chokers. But when Ben does it, there is always an excuse.
                Manning played lights out for 3 quarters JUST LIKE BEN DID VS OAK. But Manning failed in the end in the SB by throwing a pick 6 but he is a choker.
                Did the Steeler Nation feel the Same about Ben when he did the same thing vs the Broncos? No. There was an excuse. More hypocrisy

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #68
                  Originally posted by stopplayn
                  Thats an absolute statement. Do you have absolute proof that we wouldnt have made it without Ben? Lets see, the Ravens and Bucs can win a SB with Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson but we cant win one with Leftwich or Batch. You are dellusional.

                  Its ironic that non of you mentioned the THREE picks that Ben threw right to Raider Linebackers and they all dropped them. Ben should have had 3 picks. But I digress
                  It's not 2000 or 2002 anymore...

                  These days, a team needs an elite QB to win the SB...Ben is an elite QB, thankfully...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • virgilbosetti
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                    • Aug 2010
                    • 136

                    #69
                    [QUOTE=stopplayn;525749]Thats an absolute statement. Do you have absolute proof that we wouldnt have made it without Ben? Lets see, the Ravens and Bucs can win a SB with Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson but we cant win one with Leftwich or Batch. You are dellusional

                    Your arrogance offends me and the rate just went up 20%
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                    • stopplayn
                      Backup
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 423

                      #70
                      [QUOTE=virgilbosetti;525775]
                      Originally posted by stopplayn
                      Thats an absolute statement. Do you have absolute proof that we wouldnt have made it without Ben? Lets see, the Ravens and Bucs can win a SB with Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson but we cant win one with Leftwich or Batch. You are dellusional

                      Your arrogance offends me and the rate just went up 20%
                      Translation: Your posts drip with knowledge and correct stats that I envy you to the eigth power. Ben didnt throw three passes RIGHT at the Raiders LBs and they dropped them all? Dont make me post it lol

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35651

                        #71
                        As Steelers struggle, Roethlisberger shines

                        by Associated Press

                        PITTSBURGH (AP) — Ben Roethlisberger wasn’t sandbagging. At least, not intentionally.

                        The Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback really did have concerns about how long it would take to develop the rapport necessary to execute Todd Haley’s gameplan without drawing the ire of his sometimes combustible new offensive coordinator.

                        Turns out, it took less than a month.

                        While the Steelers (1-2) are off to a sluggish start, the arranged marriage between Roethlisberger and Haley is blossoming. The quarterback ranks second in the NFL with a 109.2 rating and is tied for the league lead with eight touchdowns while completing 68 percent of his passes, five points above his career average.

                        So much for the concerns about whether Roethlisberger and Haley could co-exist. The two certainly look like they’re on the same page through the season’s first three weeks.

                        Whether he’s running things out of the no-huddle, firing off a quick hitter to one of the deepest receiving corps in the league or using his legs to extend plays long enough to make something happen, Roethlisberger looks like he’s been working with Haley six years, not six months.

                        “He’s made very good decisions,” Haley said. “When you see us in quick mode, when the ball is coming out on three-step timing, he’s been tremendous.”

                        Even if Roethlisberger’s been forced to holster a bit of his inner gunslinger. Defenses have challenged him to stay patient, taking away the deep stuff and making Roethlisberger settle for shorter passes instead of allowing him to let it fly.

                        Rather than trust his arm, Roethlisberger is trusting the system. The results have been spectacular.

                        “I think he’s playing as good as any quarterback in the league,” wide receiver Mike Wallace said.

                        One who isn’t afraid to just make things up as he goes. When Oakland went to press coverage on fourth down in the first quarter last Sunday, Roethlisberger used a hand signal held over from Bruce Arians’ tenure as offensive coordinator to communicate with Wallace about a specific route.

                        Wallace turned the play into a first down, one of two instances Roethlisberger went old school during a 34-31 loss. The quarterback raised some eyebrows after his 384-yard, four-touchdown performance by hinting he ditched Haley’s playbook in the second half.

                        Turns out, he didn’t, clarifying on Tuesday he talked to Haley afterward about the hand signals, which are now a permanent part of the offense.

                        “I know there’s some people out there that were saying that I’m resistant to Todd,” Roethlisberger said. “It’s one of those things, we went to Todd and it’s in the playbook now.”

                        Call it a show of the growing confidence Roethlisberger and Haley have in each other. At times, Roethlisberger has been almost surgical in his approach. Save for a couple of late-game gambles in a season-opening loss to Denver, the quarterback and the coordinator have been in sync.

                        “He knows when he’s hearing my voice in his headset and giving him a call that I’m putting him in the best position for him to succeed,” Haley said. “I have to trust him that when I make the call, he’s going to make it work. At this point it’s been really good and I expect it to continue.”

                        Having a seemingly endless number of targets, helps. The only skill position player who hasn’t caught at least one pass this season is rookie tight end David Paulson.

                        When defenses have put most of their attention on Pro Bowlers Wallace and Antonio Brown, Roethlisberger has no trouble hitting fullback Will Johnson wheeling out of the backfield. The team’s third-longest play from scrimmage so far isn’t a bomb to Wallace but a 26-yard toss from Roethlisberger to a player who wasn’t even in the league a year ago.

                        “Ben’s in complete control out there,” left tackle Max Starks said. “Instead of trying to feel his way through and trying to understand this or that, when he goes out there, he knows what he wants to do.”

                        Maybe it’s just the final step in a nearly decade-long process that’s seen Roethlisberger win a pair of Super Bowls but also make his fair share of headlines for his off-the-field transgressions.

                        The precocious kid who derailed a title defense in 2006 by wrecking his motor cycle and was suspended four games in 2010 for violating the league’s personal conduct policy turned 30 last spring. He earned his bachelor’s degree from Miami (Ohio) in May and is expecting his first child with wife Ashley this winter.

                        While not exactly thrilled with the way the team handled Arians’ departure — the Steelers said Arians “retired” in February only to watch him get hired by the Indianapolis Colts a few weeks later — Roethlisberger didn’t pout.

                        Though he and Haley aren’t unlikely to be BFFs anytime soon, they’re starting to produce the kind of numbers that are reminiscent of the eye-popping totals the Arizona Cardinals put up in 2007-08 when Haley was calling the plays and Kurt Warner was turning Larry Fitzgerald into a superstar.

                        The Cardinals ended that 2008 season in the Super Bowl, where all Haley could do is watch from the sideline as Roethlisberger led the game-winning touchdown drive in the final moments to give the Steelers their sixth championship.

                        Now Haley and Roethlisberger are on the same side in Pittsburgh’s pursuit of a record seventh ring, the fiery coordinator and the sometimes stubborn quarterback creating harmony one play at a time.

                        “Ben can be explosive and he’s off to that start right now and it’s pretty awesome to see,” Starks said. “It’s awesome to see that maturation when he’s on all cylinders.”

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                        • virgilbosetti
                          Backup
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 136

                          #72
                          I'm sure you're a good dude. I just think you are a Ben hater. He could throw five TDs in a big win and you would say he had one shoe untied. He's not perfect but I'll take my chances with him cause he does a million things right for every mistake ie....the raider game. And some of his miscues are/were aided by poor protection (at times) Now if we could say the sane about the D & the TO's & penalties.....they'd be 2-1 right now.
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                          • Flasteel
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4008

                            #73
                            Originally posted by virgilbosetti
                            I'm sure you're a good dude. I just think you are a Ben hater. He could throw five TDs in a big win and you would say he had one shoe untied. He's not perfect but I'll take my chances with him cause he does a million things right for every mistake ie....the raider game. And some of his miscues are/were aided by poor protection (at times) Now if we could say the sane about the D & the TO's & penalties.....they'd be 2-1 right now.
                            If we could say that about the D, turnovers, and penalties, we'd be 3-0 with no chance of being beat by anyone for as long as it held-up.
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                            • virgilbosetti
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                              • Aug 2010
                              • 136

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Flasteel
                              If we could say that about the D, turnovers, and penalties, we'd be 3-0 with no chance of being beat by anyone for as long as it held-up.
                              Good pt sir!
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                              • stopplayn
                                Backup
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 423

                                #75
                                Originally posted by virgilbosetti
                                I'm sure you're a good dude. I just think you are a Ben hater. He could throw five TDs in a big win and you would say he had one shoe untied. He's not perfect but I'll take my chances with him cause he does a million things right for every mistake ie....the raider game. And some of his miscues are/were aided by poor protection (at times) Now if we could say the sane about the D & the TO's & penalties.....they'd be 2-1 right now.
                                Not a Ben hater at all. I just want him to be CONSISTENT. If he is consistent it helps the Steelers. The fact remains that Ben has ben inconsistent his whole career. I dont say "Ben shines" when he should have had three picks in the game. Ben played well vs a bad defense. If Mendenhall runs for good yardage vs the Browns or Raiders you guys would post "After all it is the browns or raiders". You guys are spot on in your criticism of every Steeler EXCEPT BEN. You guys are blinded. Go to a quarterback camp and show me ONE guru who teaches young quarterbacks to play like Ben Roethlisberger. You wont find it and why is that? Because he does too many things wrong. The STEELERS as a team covers up a lot of that wrong.

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