The Offense...

[DBR96A]

^^^ I'm with stupid ^^^

[Oviedo]

Oh and sorry if I dont give our qb credit for "extending the play" and "throwing would be sackers" off of him. WHY would I want my qb to do that? How long would he last? I want my qb to be smart. I want him taking less hits and not more. I'll take a smart qb over a TOUGH one any day. Have you guys even thought about what Ben Roethlisberger will play liike as a 12-13 year vet with all the sacks on his body? How long can he run around and "extend the play".

Ben needs to do better at the line. That way he will know where he is throwing the ball PRE SNAP and this will enable him to get the ball out quick and save him from all of the needless hits

It is Ben being Ben. It is an instinctive response he needs to get over. If you have the ability to rewatch the last game there are half a dozen plays where Ben had an easy dump off to a player short and he kept looking down the field.

I'm not worried about the offense because I have seen more to be optuimistic about in terms of playcalling after just two "live fire" games than the past two years from Arians. Barring injuries, this offense will be humming along at a high level by play off time.

[stopplayn]

Again, blaming Arians. Arians calls his play before he sees what defense the opposition will be in. However, the quarterback can see the shell of the defense and its up to HIM to change the play if need be (Ala, Mannings, Brady, Brees, Rivers). Do you think a OC could hold Peyton Manning hostage? Rodgers?. No way. Rookies NEED offensive coordinators. Elite qbs are in fact offensive coordinators on the field.

[Slapstick]

Again, blaming Arians. Arians calls his play before he sees what defense the opposition will be in. However, the quarterback can see the shell of the defense and its up to HIM to change the play if need be (Ala, Mannings, Brady, Brees, Rivers). Do you think a OC could hold Peyton Manning hostage? Rodgers?. No way. Rookies NEED offensive coordinators. Elite qbs are in fact offensive coordinators on the field.

Ben does audible. If he trusted Arians enough not to audible, then I'm doubly glad Haley is here...

[Oviedo]

Again, blaming Arians. Arians calls his play before he sees what defense the opposition will be in. However, the quarterback can see the shell of the defense and its up to HIM to change the play if need be (Ala, Mannings, Brady, Brees, Rivers). Do you think a OC could hold Peyton Manning hostage? Rodgers?. No way. Rookies NEED offensive coordinators. Elite qbs are in fact offensive coordinators on the field.

I was never an Arians basher so get your facts straight. Arians brought this offense out of the Stone Age and got them to where they could compete with the high powered offenses now in the NFL. However, Arians took this as far as he could because he would not recognize the weaknesses on the offense and adjust. He had one way of playing emphasizing the vertical attack through the air and that is the template he put out there every game even though we had an OL that was totally unsuited for that. He never delivered on his promise of getting TEs more involved in the game except for one year with Miller but other TEs who were wide open were ignored. The RB as a receiver was largely ignored.

I never characterized Arians as a villain and if you had been around you would know that many times I argued that he took way too much of the blame for team failures. I do think Arians had reached his "sell by" date and a change was necessary but I also said that about LeBeau. New insights and perspectuives are rarely ever bad.

[phillyesq]

I was never an Arians basher so get your facts straight. Arians brought this offense out of the Stone Age and got them to where they could compete with the high powered offenses now in the NFL.

I'd actually give Whiz credit for that. During the SB season, you saw the Steelers use the pass to set up the run. Establishing an effective passing offense with Cedrick Wilson as a starting WR was quite an accomplishment.

[ikestops85]

I'd actually give Whiz credit for that. During the SB season, you saw the Steelers use the pass to set up the run. Establishing an effective passing offense with Cedrick Wilson as a starting WR was quite an accomplishment.

I would never say Arians brought the Steeler offense out of the stone age. I was never an Arian fan but I wasn't a big basher either. I just thought he never got what he could out of the talent he had on offense. I wasn't a big Whiz fan either but he did seem to get the most out of his players. He brought the Steelers offense out of the stone age.

So far I'm liking what I'm seeing out of Haley's offense. It seems to have evolved after the 1st half against the broncos. Ben seems to have a lot of options when he throws which is why so many different receivers are catching the ball. I hope it continues.

[NW Steeler]

On the other hand, I have never seen a WR lay down after a catch like Wallace does.

The next tackle that Wallace breaks will be the first of his career.