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We lost for a number of reasons. But the biggest reason is that Peyton Manning outplayed Ben. Simple.
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I mean Peyton single handedly beat us (grrrr). I have heard for years that Ben gets sacked because of Arians, the Line etc etc. We have upgraded the line (even before DC got hurt) and Ben is still getting sacked. Upgraded the line, Arians is gone, the sacks still exist. Just like it did when Wiz was with us. Multiple sacks under Wiz, Arians and 5 under Haley. Is it the Oc? The line? or Ben? I think the answer is obvious. -
Sure, Peyton didn't turn the ball over while Ben threw a pick 6 when he had 3 minutes to go an an opportunity to win the game, so that was the ultimately the most striking difference in the game. But Ben wasn't exactly awful. He was an insane 10 for 11 on 3rd downs with 9 of them converted into 1st downs. Even Peyton himself told Ben after the game, "You were awesome on 3rd down tonight" (during that mic'ed up segment at halftime of MNF last night). And it wasn't like he was just taking horrible sacks all game long...he pretty much was taking what the defense was giving him all game long...3 sacks happened on consecutive when they were down 2 scores with under 2 minutes to go and no timeouts in pure desperation mode and the D could just pin their ears back against an offensive line with a completely new right side.Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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What difference does it make when they happened? They still happened. It's like the old argument of taking away a RB's longest carry and saying their YPC wasn't as good without it.
Ben got sacked 3 times to end the game. Maybe something should have been done differently after the 1st of them to avoid the next 2???Comment
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Imagine that!! A 36 year old QB, who has missed an entire season recovering from a broken neck and a paralyzed arm, on his first game back can out play our "elite" QB in his prime and the reason why we ever win a game! Go figure.....
Sadly enough! There are plenty of posters on this board that will still argue to their last breath that Ben is a better QB than Peyton Manning. Go figure....Comment
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At that point in the game, down multiple scores with little time left and no timeouts, the only possible prayer of a chance of victory was an 80 yard TD pass followed by an onside kick recovery, and a ultimately a hail mary game winner. At the point when those last several sacks happened, Ben wasn't playing like he played in the first 3 quarters anymore...he didn't have the option of a checkdown to his outlet anymore...he was holding the ball and hoping for some Ben magic on a bomb...and the pass rushers (who were just pinning their ears back) got to him. So, yeah, the situation matters.Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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How can you posess the football for almost the entire 3rd quarter and come away with only 3 points. SMH! But yet it's the defense's fault....Comment
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Ben also got a fumble recovery and a good return by Brown to put him in Bronco territory both times. 1 Fg to show for it. Yes, he was awesome on third down. I too heard Peyton tell him that in the miced session. The fact is that the sack problem still exists despite the line changes. Despite the firing of Arians. He had them with Wiz, Arians and so far with Haley. Stop the excuses, its obvious. Ben has got to learn to consistently take what the defense gives him. Frickin Flacco has more win than Ben since 08. Flacco IS NOT BETTER THAN BEN! Nor does he have a better team. But I will say that he is smarter than Ben (Based on decision making and ability to process the information quicker)Comment
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Ben doesn't have a better o-line under Haley. Maybe once DeCastro comes back but not until then. Ben didn't lose the game for us either in my opinion. Our defense lost this game for us. The parts I hate about this loss are these.
1. Nothing ever good becomes of a season when you lose the opener.
2. Lebeau/Tomlin have addressed nothing on the defense during the off season.
3. This loss will be played over the years in every Peyton Manning high light segment, sports clip or what have you.
4. A day or two before the game Foote and someone else from the Steelers were on the radio talking crap on the Bronco's saying they were the better team last year but just didn't win.
I've got news for those guys the Broncos are the better team when they face the Steelers.
5. Our defense looked lost, slow and far from being a threat. No one is affraid of our defense or offense.Comment
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Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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In 08 Ben had like 24 turnovers too and he sucked in the SB vs Green Bay. Ben is not the primary reason that we are good. The Defense is. Nor is Flacco the primary reason that the Ravens are good. My point is that Flacco is making bigger strides than Ben is and it shouldnt be that way.Comment
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And yet, some how, some way, this terrible, awful, no good, sorry excuse of a team (without Harrison, Clark, Mendenhall, Sylvester, Gilbert, Foster, etc.) had the ball in Ben's hands with 3 minutes to go in the game, and a TD drive would have won the game for us. If I told you before the game started that we would be in that situation, wouldn't you have taken it and been reasonably comfortable with a positive result?Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
while the Ravens haven't been to the Super Bowl since 2001 with Trent Dilfer.
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