Game 1 - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

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  • flippy
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 17088

    Game 1 - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

    Let's Start with the Good:

    1. Larry Foote played like a LB possessed. He was everywhere. He was disruptive. He played smart and fast. He deserves much more respect that he gets from our fan base. He's the rock of this Defense. He's now the only player that I expect to show up consistently week in and week out until proven otherwise.

    2. Ben was clutch on 3rd downs. He was just a throw or 2 from turning this game around. He made some really incredible plays that only Ben makes.

    3. Max Starks looked like about the only lineman on either side of the ball that didn't get manhandled. And he was getting 0 help. He looked in pretty good shape for this time of year. Now we know Jason Worldis is Casey Hampton's new buffet buddy.

    And then the Bad:

    1. We got killed in the trenches. It looked like Denver had NFL players going up against our college kids. Our Oline and DLine was going backward most of the night. The only thing that helped on O was spreading Denver out and that barely worked. We couldn't run the ball with Ike. We have no screen game without Mendy. I can't believe I'm thinking this, but Haley needs Mendy back to help what he seems to want to do on O. On D, there was 0 push from anyone. About the only kudos I can give is Casey is so big he was running into 2 guys and freeing up Foote to make plays.

    2. Our DBs can't tackle.

    And the Ugly

    1. Coaching was a mess. From Tomlin's bad challenge to going for 2 pts too early. To Haley's play calling to Lebeau's play calling. Does the mile high air affect our coaches minds more than Ryan Clark's body? I'll give Haley a pass cause he's new. But Lebeau's D was overly conservative. It begged the Broncos to pick us apart. And for all the things I like about Tomlin, he doesn't stay cool under the game pressure. He almost needs an assistant to make in game decisions for him. It's the Sushi can kick a 60 yard FG at Heinz Field in December mentality. I suspect Mike Tomlin is a bigger homer than any of us. Or something like that.

    2. Our Defense was on the field 24 minutes. They went through a stretch of getting nearly an hour of rest. And they gave up plays immediately. No fire. No gumption. Nothing. They looked like they peaked and started unleashing hell a little early this year.

    3. Why didn't Rainey get any return chances when he ran back 2 kicks last week?


    Overall, the same problems that have plagued this team for years continue to plague this team. We have the Swiss Cheese line of the NFL. Both sides of the ball. And when you lose this bad in the trenches so consistently, it's hard to be a good football team.

    We have a handful of guys that can help us overcome - Ben, Troy, Harrison. And I hope to God they are healthy. This whole season is just going to come down to Ben. Can Haley get him over the hump? Make him into something even better? Can he keep Ben alive? After last night, Ben's on pace to get sacked 80 times this season.

    Please protect him Mr Haley. It seems like you're trying to do something differently than Bruce. But maybe Bruce understood what you will come to understand in time. Our only chance is to let Ben try to be Ben and make plays downfield. Because nothing else seems to work. It's our only chance. It might get him killed, but he's tough. And anything else you do behind this crappy line is likely to get him killed any way. So bombs away. Make him hold the ball 5-10 seconds. Take your chances.

    Or change Ben and hurry up please. Whatever, he's our only chance.
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  • Mister Pittsburgh
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    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    #2
    8-8 is my prognostication.
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    • Djfan
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 5184

      #3
      The first half game plan was odd. It seems like the idea was to use clock, not exploit any weaknesses, or to keep their defense guessing. I really didn't get what the goal was at all.
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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #4
        Originally posted by Djfan
        The first half game plan was odd. It seems like the idea was to use clock, not exploit any weaknesses, or to keep their defense guessing. I really didn't get what the goal was at all.
        Possess the ball and keep Manning off the field. We saw why when he embarassed our supposedly great defense.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • SteelBucks
          Legend
          • Aug 2008
          • 8075

          #5
          Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
          8-8 is my prognostication.
          Possible but I'm not going to go doom and gloom until I see how they play against the Jets next week. Some games are just bad matchups....Denver was a bad matchup. Also, look what happened last year. Steelers got humiliated in Baltimore 35-7 in Week 1 and still finished the season 12-4. Hope lives!

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27564

            #6
            The Bronco's had the ball for :36 second in the 3rd quarter and outscored us 7 to 3.

            PATHETIC!!!
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #7
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              The Bronco's had the ball for :36 second in the 3rd quarter and outscored us 7 to 3.

              PATHETIC!!!

              But our defense was ranked #1 last year (sarcasm in great quantities)
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              • Mister Pittsburgh
                Hall of Famer
                • Jul 2008
                • 3674

                #8
                The Steelers like to talk tough saying things like 'impose our will' and crap like that...but at every turn they go as conservative as possible and are always the reactionary team vs. the ones making the other team make adjustments. Instead of trying to put as many points on the board every play of every series, we attempt to run, run, pass, to eat clock to keep big scary Peyton on the sideline.....when we just as easily could of taken charge, spread them out, and try and score as fast and as much as possible, forcing them to go into an attack mode where we know the pass is coming and can blitz the hell out of manning. The Steelers will continue to beat the average to below average teams with the way they play, but will rarely beat the top teams with the top offenses.

                It always has to come down to how our defense plays because our offense is always crap. Did Denvers defense look super tired there the last couple series where they pretty much destroyed our offense? Isn't that always the excuse we hear???> Gotta keep the defense off the field so they aren't tired.....BS.
                Last edited by Mister Pittsburgh; 09-10-2012, 09:38 AM.
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                • Djfan
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 5184

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Possess the ball and keep Manning off the field. We saw why when he embarassed our supposedly great defense.
                  I really want to agree with that Ovi, but for that to work you have to play to score after holding the ball. We looked like that was not important. I get the ball control. I was advocating for that. But set up the play action and then USE IT? There seemed to be no reason for their defense to second guess what was coming.

                  That is what I don't get.
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                  • Jigawatts
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 2639

                    #10
                    I know Tomlin has made a few questionable challenges in the past but I see nothing wrong with the one last night. He had to make a quick decision before Manning ran up to the line and snapped the ball. If by chance we win that challenge I think it changes the outcome of the game. Unfortunately it didn't go our way.
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                    • SteelBucks
                      Legend
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 8075

                      #11
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      The Bronco's had the ball for :36 second in the 3rd quarter and outscored us 7 to 3.

                      PATHETIC!!!
                      The redzone offense needs to improve. Settling for FG's was one of the reasons they lost in Denver last year after controlling much of the game.....the story rewrote itself last night.

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jigawatts
                        I know Tomlin has made a few questionable challenges in the past but I see nothing wrong with the one last night. He had to make a quick decision before Manning ran up to the line and snapped the ball. If by chance we win that challenge I think it changes the outcome of the game. Unfortunately it didn't go our way.
                        Everyone wants to criticize, but the challenge last night was a brilliant move by Tomlin. Manning just ran the defense ragged with the no huddle and I believe that the challenge gave us more time than a normal time out for the defense to try to get their act together on the goal line. Unfortunately the defense had no answers even after the extended break.
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • steelfin
                          Backup
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 455

                          #13
                          I am not sure i would call it a brilliant call...but it definitely did not cost us the game....

                          Our inability to score TDs instead of FGs and our inability to stop the no-huddle offense cost us the game....The defense is definitely concerning after seeing that performance.

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                          • Shawn
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 15131

                            #14
                            11-5, we get our ish together and do just fine. It was one bad game people.
                            Trolls are people too.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #15
                              I thought that the challenge was a good move...it enabled the defense to get a breather and for the Steelers to substitute personnel...

                              The D just set up too quickly and allowed Manning to audible...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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