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  • NJ-STEELER
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #16
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    Dwyer earned it and is the more complete RB
    earned it how?

    redman has shown what he can do in the regular season and playoffs, not just against camp fodder or vets going half ass in pre season

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    • Slapstick
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 0

      #17
      Originally posted by DukieBoy

      Not to argue with GG, but ...
      Why is he still GG? Lent was over ages ago...
      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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      • phillyesq
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 7568

        #18
        I don't see Hightower as an upgrade at all. Look at the guys he couldn't beat out in D.C. Ray Helu? Alfred Morris? Sorry, if he can't make that team, he probably will not be of much help in Pittsburgh.

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        • lloydroid
          Pro Bowler
          • Aug 2012
          • 2026

          #19
          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          Adrian Peterson tore his ACL a week before Mendenhall (Mendenhall's injury was on New Year's Day, and Peterson's injury was on Christmas Eve). Right now, Peterson is 50-50 to start week one. Judging by the fact that Mendenhall was in uniform last night, I figure that Mendenhall isn't too far behind Peterson in terms of their rehab.

          As for Mendenhall running like a "wussy" and Dwyer being the best RB we have...you do realize that Mendenhall has nearly 4000 yards of total offense and 30 touchdowns on his resume, right? Dwyer's has 151 rushing yards in his entire career, while Mendenhall has 3 single games with at least that many rushing yards (151 against Buffalo on 11-28-10, 155 against Denver on 11-9-09, and 165 against San Diego on 10-4-09).
          AP's knee was far worse than JD's too. I think it's kind of crazy to rush him back.

          Of course RM's had far more yards, that's because he PLAYED. He got the bulk of the carries. RM is a FIRST ROUND PICK. JD would have gone undrafted if Pgh didn't take him. What you assert is HISTORY. The past is not a certain indicator of the FUTURE. They say it takes TWO years to really, fully come back all the way from an ACL. We will see.

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          • lloydroid
            Pro Bowler
            • Aug 2012
            • 2026

            #20
            Originally posted by phillyesq
            I don't see Hightower as an upgrade at all. Look at the guys he couldn't beat out in D.C. Ray Helu? Alfred Morris? Sorry, if he can't make that team, he probably will not be of much help in Pittsburgh.
            Roy (not Ray) Helu ran 151 times for 640 yards at a 4.2 avg. RM had a 4.1 apc - virtually the same. And rushing the ball on the dead skin team would be more difficult than rushing as a Steeler. What weapons did the skins have to keep defenses honest? Who did they have throwing the ball? Rex Freakin Grossman?

            Now, one valid point that I had forgot is that TH tore up his knee as well. After considering that, probably not worth picking him up, since we have our own back in the same situation. And it looks like TH re-hurt his knee. They rushed him back too quickly. I hate when they do that.

            The Washington Post believes Tim Hightower's release was due to the health of his knee.
            Hightower, just 10 months removed from an ACL tear, played reasonably well in the third preseason game. Afterward, however, pain flared up and he was noticeably limping just a few days later. Hightower isn't going to attract any attention on the open market until he proves his knee is ready to go. Sep. 1 - 10:56 am et
            Source: Washington Post

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            • lloydroid
              Pro Bowler
              • Aug 2012
              • 2026

              #21
              Originally posted by DukieBoy

              Not to argue with GG (his observations of Mendy's running style ring true with me), but ...
              I have cringed when our RB's, Mendy or anyone, has had to run behind an Offensive Line that mostly only offended Steeler tradition and fans and professional-level play, and had to run in an offense managed by a coordinator who de-emphasized practicing the run game which helped to make it even less effective than it could have been. In that context, I think Mendy has been a very effective RB and is under-appreciated. BTW, I remember criticisms of Franco Harris for avoiding hits, running out-of-bounds instead of fighting for the extra yard, etc. Last I knew, Franco had a reasonably long and effective career and is in the HOF.
              I totally agree with Duckie's assessment on RM. And RM couldn't carry Franco's jock, let alone be comparable to him on a football field. Franco is a HALL OF FAME back who didn't hesitate in the hole like RM. Yes, he stepped out of bounds to
              avoid unnecessary contact. Big difference. RM stutter step and endless spins are not the stuff of Franco. Not even close. There is just something not there with RM. He has all the physical measurables to be a top NFL back, but he just isn't. He is missing the killer desire to gobble up yards. It's almost like he runs to not get hurt and is timid far too often. And he never breaks that final tackle to take it to the house. He always gets taken down by that last defender. I am sick of his act.

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              • DukieBoy
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3488

                #22
                Originally posted by lloydroid
                I totally agree with Duckie's assessment on RM. And RM couldn't carry Franco's jock, let alone be comparable to him on a football field. Franco is a HALL OF FAME back who didn't hesitate in the hole like RM. Yes, he stepped out of bounds to
                avoid unnecessary contact. Big difference. RM stutter step and endless spins are not the stuff of Franco. Not even close. There is just something not there with RM. He has all the physical measurables to be a top NFL back, but he just isn't. He is missing the killer desire to gobble up yards. It's almost like he runs to not get hurt and is timid far too often. And he never breaks that final tackle to take it to the house. He always gets taken down by that last defender. I am sick of his act.
                Quack! The point was not to compare Mendy to Franco, the point was to compare the fans' criticism of Mend to the fans' criticism of Franco. Sorry if that was not clear to you. Franco took alot of fan heat for his affinity for the safety of the sidelines.





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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #23
                  You know what Mendehall does well? Scores TDs...

                  He's scored 30 in the last three years...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    You know what Mendehall does well? Scores TDs...

                    He's scored 30 in the last three years...
                    "All he does is score touchdowns" -Buddy Ryan

                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • Eddie Spaghetti
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 4123

                      #25
                      I am getting confused here.

                      mendenhall is being criticized for not running hard enough and fighting for every yard while redman is being criticized for doing the exact opposite. Seems someone wants to have it both ways.

                      maybe someone will just say a anythjng to prop up jonathan dwyer.

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                      • lloydroid
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 2026

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        You know what Mendehall does well? Scores TDs...

                        He's scored 30 in the last three years...
                        That's nice and all, but with RM as our starting back Pgh's rushing attack has been below average, and for a team that cherishes running the ball, that ain't so good. RM apc was only 4.1. I would like to see our #1 back rushing with at least a 4.5 avg.

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          #27
                          Originally posted by lloydroid
                          That's nice and all, but with RM as our starting back Pgh's rushing attack has been below average, and for a team that cherishes running the ball, that ain't so good. RM apc was only 4.1. I would like to see our #1 back rushing with at least a 4.5 avg.
                          You know who has a 4.5 YpC avg. for the Steelers? Isaac Redman...
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • lloydroid
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 2026

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                            I am getting confused here.

                            mendenhall is being criticized for not running hard enough and fighting for every yard while redman is being criticized for doing the exact opposite. Seems someone wants to have it both ways.

                            maybe someone will just say a anythjng to prop up jonathan dwyer.
                            Eddie, the world (and your use of the English language) is not always as simple as black and white. Not everything is mutually exclusive. You see, it is possible for both assertions to be true: RM does stutter step and spin too much and IR will be hurt often due to his running style. Both can be true but if you look at this in too simple of a manner, you can't grasp both concepts in unison. We shall see if IR does indeed play every game of the season.

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                            • Eddie Spaghetti
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4123

                              #29
                              Originally posted by lloydroid
                              Eddie, the world (and your use of the English language) is not always as simple as black and white. Not everything is mutually exclusive. You see, it is possible for both assertions to be true: RM does stutter step and spin too much and IR will be hurt often due to his running style. Both can be true but if you look at this in too simple of a manner, you can't grasp both concepts in unison. We shall see if IR does indeed play every game of the season.
                              or maybe you just talk out of both sides of your mouth as long as it fits your agenda on dwyer.

                              yeah, I'm going with that one.

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                              • hawaiiansteel
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 35651

                                #30
                                Originally posted by lloydroid
                                the world is not always as simple as black and white.
                                I thought the world was black and gold?

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