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  • NorthCoast
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    • Sep 2008
    • 26639

    Where are all the Adams backers?

    Two preseason games, two "fails".

    Hopefully it is a case of a guy thinking too much, but I can't remember the last time I have seen a lineman perform this poorly (outside of Essux). How many believe he will realistically be ready even by midseason?
    Somebody that is knowledgeable about line play please give us some sign that things will be OK. Otherwise we are looking at a 2nd round bust of the magnitude of Alonzo Jackson...
    Last edited by NorthCoast; 08-20-2012, 06:47 PM.
  • Eddie Spaghetti
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 4123

    #2
    tap the brakes.

    its been two preseason games. I still love the pick. What did you expect from a 2nd round draft choice?

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    • NorthCoast
      Legend
      • Sep 2008
      • 26639

      #3
      Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
      tap the brakes.

      its been two preseason games. I still love the pick. What did you expect from a 2nd round draft choice?
      something a little better than 4 sacks given up on less than a dozen plays....

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      • Eddie Spaghetti
        Hall of Famer
        • Jul 2008
        • 4123

        #4
        eh. Let him get adjusted to the speed of the game.

        his run blocking has been above the line from what I can tell. That's something.

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        • pittpete
          Legend
          • Aug 2008
          • 6825

          #5
          I say we cut him
          If he cant get with the program after 2 preseason games I'm sure he will never get it.
          Can you say Jermaine Stephens II.

          BTW, sarcasm^^^
          Hopefully the OP will realize how foolish his post is and try and refrain from such posts in the future
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          • NorthCoast
            Legend
            • Sep 2008
            • 26639

            #6
            The OP was trying to point out those that thought Adams could be in the starting lineup by week 4. Based on a sample size of 2, I think this is unlikely.

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            • aggiebones
              Pro Bowler
              • Jan 2009
              • 1427

              #7
              I thought you were the OP?

              /Anyway, some guys take a bit longer as rookies. Why worry about it at this point? How many rookies started on the OL in game 1? He's got time to adjust to the speed. He may be a bit shell shocked. We don't have any real data except that he's a slow starter so far.

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              • SuperSize
                Backup
                • Dec 2008
                • 135

                #8
                He's gonna be okay. Like Eddie said, his run blocking is good now. His biggest issue pass blocking is maintaining his position relative to the QB's position in the pocket. An OL must make his pass set so that his rear end is pointed at the QB, and be directly between the QB and the rusher. In the sacks he has given up, it has been right off the set - either setting too far upfield on a short drop, or setting up too short on a deep drop. That tells me he isn't familiar with the play calls and resulting protection calls yet.

                He has the physical tools - feet, size, & strength. Let's give him a chance to see if he has the mental make-up to succeed.



                Pete
                It's not what you do, it's how you do it.

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                • flippy
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 17088

                  #9
                  The one positive I see is he doesn't give up. He gets beat like crazy but he doesn't quit. A lot of guys quit when they get beat. That says to me, he's getting beat on the mental aspect of the game.

                  The guy's got size and agility. And guys with his size/agility don't grow on trees. So I think we'll just have to wait and see where he is in a year.

                  I didn't really like him coming out of college and he was the one pick in the draft I liked the least. But he's surprised me with a little fight in him. I like his attitude. I just hope we don't have to use him or Ben might die.

                  The one other thing to consider is when you're moving linemen around and the communication breaks down, one guys mistake on the line can make other guys around them look worse.

                  So if we can get some stability with Max, Pouncey, and Gilbert. Work Colon and DD into the mix, we might have some consistency going into next year. Then with that stability, maybe it makes it easier to add in Adams next year or later in the season.
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                  • SidSmythe
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4708

                    #10
                    The only people disappointed with Adams are those who expect him to START this year.
                    I expect him to be the 3rd backup . . . hence why they brought Max Starks back which makes GILBERT #2 on the depth chart at LT
                    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                    • NJ-STEELER
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      #11
                      there are #1 picks on defense that take 2 years to crack the starting line up but you want to bash a 2nd round pick for not looking great in his 2nd pre season game??

                      i'm no line expert but some of his problems appear to be technique. he's there with his man, but lets the guy get into him and then gets beat by his move from it. he needs to learn to punch that guy and use his body better to shield off the guy.
                      not worried yet, as aid above he shouldn't be starting this year anyway

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                      • DukieBoy
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3488

                        #12
                        A young guy with raw talent, with a big learning curve ahead. Glad we have Max for this year. I expect he will do well following experience and good coaching. I'd advocate patience.





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                        • fezziwig
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3515

                          #13
                          No, he hasn't looked like a future hall of famer. He doesn't even look like a second year man but, he is playing probably the hardest position on the offensive line except maybe for center. And I mean a center that can pull and block down field.
                          I'm willing to give him the four pre-season games but, if he doesn't do better or show improvement prior to the Denver game then, better put Max in there until the kid gets his stuff together. I do believe he will be a good tackle for us down the road.

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #14
                            Not sure what qualifies someone as a "Adams backer," but after two preseason game in which Adams played hurt in Game #2 I'm not sure that is reason to become a "Adams hater". It was highly unlikely he was going to be able to start at LT this season. How many rookies can? That is why many of us wanted Starks back.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • Shawn
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15131

                              #15
                              I want to say I told ya so...but even I know 2 preseason games mean little. He is RAW and will need some time. Even with time he might not be anything more than serviceable because he doesn't play with a fire in his belly. Because I love my Steelers I'm grudgingly rooting for him.
                              Trolls are people too.

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