just think how pissed wallace's agent is....lol

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    #16
    Originally posted by williar
    I don't feel good about our receiving corp minus Wallace. He was the star! I like Brown, Sanders and Cotchery but they ain't scaring nobody!
    I don't care if they are scary...they just need to be effective...

    Roethlisberger is the key...as long as Ben plays well, the Steelers will have a chance to win...
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

    Comment

    • Eich
      Legend
      • Jul 2010
      • 7044

      #17
      Originally posted by williar
      I don't feel good about our receiving corp minus Wallace. He was the star! I like Brown, Sanders and Cotchery but they ain't scaring nobody!
      They're more scary than Hines Ward, Randel El and Cedric Wilson and we got a ring with that crew.

      Comment

      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #18
        Originally posted by Eich
        They're more scary than Hines Ward, Randel El and Cedric Wilson and we got a ring with that crew.
        Exact point I was going to make.

        Slappy hit the nail on the head. It is up to Ben, and Haley, because if they increase the distribution of the ball to the RBs and TEs then we will probably be a more effective offense because those are higher percentage of success plays than going bombs away to Wallace.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

        Comment

        • Chadman
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6537

          #19
          Originally posted by squidkid
          the steelers have kept one of their premier young talents by offering a more than fair contract to a player that accepted it and wants to be a steeler.
          my vendetta against wallace is the same i would have against any player that places himself over the team, fans and organization.
          i never stated that the player shouldnt or doesnt have the right to try to make as much money as they possibly can, however by doing so, when you hurt my team from succeeding. i think they are a POS
          Please explain how Wallace's wage demands have hurt the Steelers chances of winning- remembering that you said he has the right to make as much money as he can.

          What is a 'fair' price for Wallace? The one YOU feel is appropriate? Or should we use Antonio Brown as the measuring stick? Maybe we should. Brown has had 1 years success. This entitled him to a contract extension of 5 years for $42.5 million.

          Wallace has had 3 years of success. Should he get 3 times as much? Is that 'fair'?

          Did Ben's $100+ million contract hamper the teams ability to sign other big price players? If yes- are you equally ticked at Ben? And if no, how can Wallace's desired contract impact the team any more than Ben's does?
          The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

          Light up the darkness.

          Comment

          • Chadman
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6537

            #20
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            I totally agree. I don't understand people who say they are fans of the organization and then defend a player that is trying to screw the organization over by blowing the top off the salary cap. Either you love the team or they are blinded by man love for a player who like all past Steelers players will prove to be just another replaceable carbon unit.
            How is Wallace trying to 'screw the organisation'?
            The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

            Light up the darkness.

            Comment

            • Chadman
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 6537

              #21
              Originally posted by Eich
              They're more scary than Hines Ward, Randel El and Cedric Wilson and we got a ring with that crew.
              That group had Hines Ward in his prime, with multiple seasons of success under his belt.

              The current group has 2 guys with very little experience & a guy that is no danger of starting anywhere in the NFL.

              Brown, for all the love we give him, has got to back up last years performance before he gets annointed anywhere near Hines Ward class.
              The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

              Light up the darkness.

              Comment

              • Chadman
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6537

                #22
                Originally posted by Eich
                They're more scary than Hines Ward, Randel El and Cedric Wilson and we got a ring with that crew.
                And that group had Bettis & Willie Parker to lean on. Our group has Redman &....Dwyer? Batch?
                The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                Light up the darkness.

                Comment

                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Chadman
                  And that group had Bettis & Willie Parker to lean on. Our group has Redman &....Dwyer? Batch?
                  If the new NFL has taught us anything, it is that teams can make (and win) SB without great skill players...except for the QB...

                  The Saints made and won the SB with one 1,000 yard WR and an effective ground game (with no 1000 yard rusher)...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

                  Comment

                  • Chadman
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 6537

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    If the new NFL has taught us anything, it is that teams can make (and win) SB without great skill players...except for the QB...

                    The Saints made and won the SB with one 1,000 yard WR and an effective ground game (with no 1000 yard rusher)...
                    That effective ground game was the 6th best rushing attack in the NFL. Are Redman & co going to reach those heights?
                    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                    Light up the darkness.

                    Comment

                    • squidkid
                      Legend
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 5847

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Chadman
                      Please explain how Wallace's wage demands have hurt the Steelers chances of winning- remembering that you said he has the right to make as much money as he can.

                      What is a 'fair' price for Wallace? The one YOU feel is appropriate? Or should we use Antonio Brown as the measuring stick? Maybe we should. Brown has had 1 years success. This entitled him to a contract extension of 5 years for $42.5 million.

                      Wallace has had 3 years of success. Should he get 3 times as much? Is that 'fair'?

                      Did Ben's $100+ million contract hamper the teams ability to sign other big price players? If yes- are you equally ticked at Ben? And if no, how can Wallace's desired contract impact the team any more than Ben's does?
                      c'mon chadman,
                      how can you compare a qb to a wr? how many franchises have won superbowls or become dynasties because of a wr? how many times during the nfl draft have you heard all the analyst state "he's a franchise wr". there's a reason everybody in the league knows that they need a great qb to compete for a superbowl consistantly so you cant compare giving a wr 10 million the same as a qb 10 million per year.
                      when i talk about hurting my team i am referring to not being able to keep or sign players in the future because so much cap money is tied up in one or two players that dont necessarily deserve it.
                      i think brown got more than he should have and i stated that in a previous post. i said it was a gamble giving him that much so soon and worried it was a kneejerk reaction to wallace. i assume that you would agree with giving wallace 3 times as much brown got seeing you brought it up? you dont think that would hurt this team down the road?
                      steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

                      Comment

                      • Slapstick
                        Rookie
                        • May 2008
                        • 0

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Chadman
                        That effective ground game was the 6th best rushing attack in the NFL. Are Redman & co going to reach those heights?
                        Their leading rusher had less than 800 yards...Redman had almost 500 last year with Mendenhall getting the lion's share of the carries...

                        With a stable of young RBs and an upgraded offensive line, it isn't far-fetched, IMO...
                        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

                        Comment

                        • flippy
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 17088

                          #27
                          Wally's agent could probably care less. If he has to wait a year and gets a monster contract next year, he still wins. So does Wally.
                          sigpic

                          Comment

                          • BURGH86STEEL
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 6921

                            #28
                            Originally posted by flippy
                            Wally's agent could probably care less. If he has to wait a year and gets a monster contract next year, he still wins. So does Wally.
                            Yep, play for 2.7 million or less (6 games) or take a chance to reach free agency and possibly sign a contract with 15 or 20+ million guaranteed. Similar to Vincent Jackson, I think I'd take my chances with free agency.

                            Comment

                            • squidkid
                              Legend
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 5847

                              #29
                              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                              Yep, play for 2.7 million or less (6 games) or take a chance to reach free agency and possibly sign a contract with 15 or 20+ million guaranteed. Similar to Vincent Jackson, I think I'd take my chances with free agency.

                              or show up to camp and have the negotiations continue with more than likely being offered 15-20 million guarateed this year and not have to worry about getting 'injured' those last 6 weeks of the season and lose out on millions forever. i'd take my chances on the steelers doing the right thing(like they always have) to the players that they want for a long time.
                              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

                              Comment

                              • NJ-STEELER
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 12563

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                                just don't get the vitriol towards wallace by some.

                                .
                                agreed

                                and when ward held out even with a signed contract, he didnt receive this much crap about it

                                Comment

                                Working...