How Bout a Trade

[Iron Shiek]

I think I understand your line of thinking. However, SOME team that is desperate for a guy with those kind of burners will pay a whole lot for a guy like MW. We see teams overpay for guys all the time. Even with a year off, Bus Cook will get someone to show MW the money.

My hope is that it doesn't come to that since the Steelers have a better chance to be more successful with Mike than without him.

Too bad Al Davis isn't around...we would easily get 2 1sts and 2 2nds for Wallace, and Darren McFadden probably. But considering they've probably already traded those picks for the forseeable future, the payoff wouldn't likely be seen until around 2018...about the 3rd year for all those 2015 picks.

[grotonsteel]

No trade.

Wallace will play at least this year for the Steelers. His best chance of getting a contract is to play well this year. Sitting out 10 games and then being inactive for the last 6, which is probably what the Steelers would do, will not earn him a contract any better than what the Steelers are offering now and probably worse...

What are Steelers offering Mike Wallace? I have not heard any number from Steelers yet. I would assume Mike Wallace would be getting similar money to DeSean Jackson.

I don't think MW will sit 10 games. He will show up before 3rd preseason game.

[Slapstick]

I think I understand your line of thinking. However, SOME team that is desperate for a guy with those kind of burners will pay a whole lot for a guy like MW. We see teams overpay for guys all the time. Even with a year off, Bus Cook will get someone to show MW the money.

My hope is that it doesn't come to that since the Steelers have a better chance to be more successful with Mike than without him.

But, if the contract offer next year is no better than the Steelers', what good did it do?

[grotonsteel]

No trade.

+1

I would not trade Mike Wallace. Let him play this season and if Steelers don't sign him either put a franchise tag or let him go find another team next season. Steelers are not building the team for future. They are in it for SB win this season and Mike Wallace will make life easy for Steelers Offense.

[steelz09]

Revis is better at CB than what Wallace is at WR. That is why I would pay him 10 mil/year before I would do the same / Wallace.

[grotonsteel]

Revis is better at CB than what Wallace is at WR. That is why I would pay him 10 mil/year before I would do the same / Wallace.

Do you believe Revis will be signed for 10 million/yr? He is getting almost 12 million/yr from jets (4yr/46 million) and he is not happy with that money. Steelers will have to pony up around 15 million/yr for him something like 4yr/ 55-60 million contract to sign Revis.

[steelz09]

Do you believe Revis will be signed for 10 million/yr? He is getting almost 12 million/yr from jets (4yr/46 million) and he is not happy with that money. Steelers will have to pony up around 15 million/yr for him something like 4yr/ 55-60 million contract to sign Revis.

No, probably not. I was responding to someone else's post. I would take Revis any day over Wallace. Could you imagine Revis, Ike, Allen, Brown? That's just sick.

I would actually take Revis 4/50 mil over Wallace at 5/50 million.

[Slapstick]

I'd say that a trade before week six is way more likely now...

The Steelers could allow Bus Cook to negotiate with other teams and make a sign-the-tender-and-trade type deal...

[hawaiiansteel]

Wallace Unlikely to be Traded, but Not for the Reasons You May Think

by Steelblitz
July 28, 2012

Gerry Dulac tweeted yesterday that he wouldn’t be surprised if the Steelers traded Wallace at some point during training camp. It is believed that after signing Antonio Brown the Steelers no longer believe they will be able to reach a long-term deal with Mike Wallace. Earlier this week it was falsely reported that Wallace had agreed to a five year contract worth $42 million dollars. Antonio Brown’s new deal, coincidentally, is worth that exact amount. After news got out that Wallace’s supposed new deal was a false story it was reported that negotiations had fallen apart. Now Steelers blog sites everywhere are attempting to come up with trade ideas for Wallace.

My current stance is this: Wallace won’t be traded because it won’t be worth it for the Steelers. The best trade idea I have seen is that the Steelers could trade Wallace to the Kansas City Chiefs for disgruntled receiver Dwayne Bowe and a draft pick. However, that deal would require Wallace wanting to go to KC (as he would have to sign a deal to be traded) and KC agreeing to the deal in the first place. Bowe has also been a bit of a head-case in KC and doesn’t seem the type of player the Steelers would be looking to bring in. Other sites have mentioned a Wallace for Maurice Jones-Drew deal, but again that deal makes little practical sense.

The most practical trade idea would be trading Wallace for a draft pick. However, when Wallace was a restricted free agent he held a first round tender (meaning any team who signed him would send their first round pick to the Steelers) and he received no offers. In that case it is highly unlikely to think the Steelers could get a first round pick for Wallace. A second round pick would likely be offered by a multitude of teams, but the value just isn’t there. If the Steelers keep Wallace for 2012 and let him walk via free agency they will receive a third round compensatory selection meaning they could have a year of Wallace plus a third round pick which is worth more than a second round pick.

Wallace is a dynamic playmaker and could be the difference for a team looking to make another run at the Super Bowl. There is also the ever lessening possibility that the Steelers could still sign Wallace long-term. They still have plenty of cap space to work out a deal with Wallace. They can also now threaten to franchise tag him next year as a scare tactic in negotiations. Currently the Steelers are estimated to have in the area of $6 million to spend not including the $2.7 million tendered to Wallace. They could easily sign Wallace to a deal with a cap hit of around $5-6 million in 2012 and leave themselves with some breathing room in case of injury.

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[isonator07]

Wallace Unlikely to be Traded, but Not for the Reasons You May Think

by Steelblitz
July 28, 2012

Gerry Dulac tweeted yesterday that he wouldn’t be surprised if the Steelers traded Wallace at some point during training camp. It is believed that after signing Antonio Brown the Steelers no longer believe they will be able to reach a long-term deal with Mike Wallace. Earlier this week it was falsely reported that Wallace had agreed to a five year contract worth $42 million dollars. Antonio Brown’s new deal, coincidentally, is worth that exact amount. After news got out that Wallace’s supposed new deal was a false story it was reported that negotiations had fallen apart. Now Steelers blog sites everywhere are attempting to come up with trade ideas for Wallace.

My current stance is this: Wallace won’t be traded because it won’t be worth it for the Steelers. The best trade idea I have seen is that the Steelers could trade Wallace to the Kansas City Chiefs for disgruntled receiver Dwayne Bowe and a draft pick. However, that deal would require Wallace wanting to go to KC (as he would have to sign a deal to be traded) and KC agreeing to the deal in the first place. Bowe has also been a bit of a head-case in KC and doesn’t seem the type of player the Steelers would be looking to bring in. Other sites have mentioned a Wallace for Maurice Jones-Drew deal, but again that deal makes little practical sense.

The most practical trade idea would be trading Wallace for a draft pick. However, when Wallace was a restricted free agent he held a first round tender (meaning any team who signed him would send their first round pick to the Steelers) and he received no offers. In that case it is highly unlikely to think the Steelers could get a first round pick for Wallace. A second round pick would likely be offered by a multitude of teams, but the value just isn’t there. If the Steelers keep Wallace for 2012 and let him walk via free agency they will receive a third round compensatory selection meaning they could have a year of Wallace plus a third round pick which is worth more than a second round pick.

Wallace is a dynamic playmaker and could be the difference for a team looking to make another run at the Super Bowl. There is also the ever lessening possibility that the Steelers could still sign Wallace long-term. They still have plenty of cap space to work out a deal with Wallace. They can also now threaten to franchise tag him next year as a scare tactic in negotiations. Currently the Steelers are estimated to have in the area of $6 million to spend not including the $2.7 million tendered to Wallace. They could easily sign Wallace to a deal with a cap hit of around $5-6 million in 2012 and leave themselves with some breathing room in case of injury.

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If Wallace sits out ten games, his stats obviously will take a hit. Would that make it less likely to receive a third round pick if he leaves in FA 2013? Do they look at production over a career or previous year?

[RuthlessBurgher]

If Wallace sits out ten games, his stats obviously will take a hit. Would that make it less likely to receive a third round pick if he leaves in FA 2013? Do they look at production over a career or previous year?

Although the exact formula is not known, the comp pick formula appears to be based primarily on the size of the contract a player gets from another team, not statistical production (because, then, how would you compare, say a left guard to a skill position player).

[squidkid]

i dont think the author really thought the draft pick thru. the steelers best draft pick would be a comp pick at the end of round 3, so somewhere around 97-100. a team that may give up a second round pick will be anywhere between 33-64. that's a potential huge differernce between a player that barely dropped out of the first round compared to a legit middle to end of round 3 guy at best.

[isonator07]

Although the exact formula is not known, the comp pick formula appears to be based primarily on the size of the contract a player gets from another team, not statistical production (because, then, how would you compare, say a left guard to a skill position player).

Good point, that makes sense. Hopefully he just shows up, and they get a new contract for him.