Wallace officially a no-show; Steelers suspend negotiations

[steelnavy]

I just don't see how that's passive/aggressive...

I mean, he can't say, "Well, we'll just have to wait for Mike. We won't have anybody running routes from the 'X' position."

I think it's less taking shots at Mike as it is answering the inevitable media questions and laying out specific answers so that he doesn't hear the same questions about Wallace day in and day out...

Its definitely passive/aggressive.

[squidkid]

Classy response...do you plan on cheering the multiple Ben-to-Wallace 40+ yard TD passes that will occur this season, or will you just still continue with the "F you wallace" attitude? Just curious (I don't understand the mindset of letting things like this get so personal...I doubt the folks who are directly involved such as Wallace/Cook or Colbert/Khan are taking this as personal as you are...it's just business...business tends to work it self out when both sides are motivated to get a deal done...and thus far, there is nothing to indicate that is no longer the case from either side).

you mean as classy as wallace is acting?
wallace isnt a steeler. he chooses not to be one. he is not doing anything to help his former team or teammates succeed. i will not support him until he becomes a member of this team. i will view him as any other nfl player that holds out, as a distraction. as a greedy player that only cares about himself and not the team, organization or fans.
i dont cheer for non steeler nfl players duringh the season unless they are helping my fantasy teams make me money. until he does something that benefits me or makes me happy, no i wont support him and have no reason to.

[Slapstick]

Its definitely passive/aggressive.

What's definitely passive/aggressive is not coming to camp...

[Oviedo]

you mean as classy as wallace is acting?
wallace isnt a steeler. he chooses not to be one. he is not doing anything to help his former team or teammates succeed. i will not support him until he becomes a member of this team. i will view him as any other nfl player that holds out, as a distraction. as a greedy player that only cares about himself and not the team, organization or fans.
i dont cheer for non steeler nfl players duringh the season unless they are helping my fantasy teams make me money. until he does something that benefits me or makes me happy, no i wont support him and have no reason to.

Concur. Wallace is the one who is choosing to not be part of the solution therefore he is part of the problem.

[D Rock]

At what point can the Steelers start to fine Wallace and reduce his pay or would be pay?

Never. Mike Wallace is not a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers at this time as he has not signed his tender and therefore is not under contract. He is not required to report to camp or show up anywhere.

They could still drop his tender amount at any time but have stated they will not do so because he has earned the 2.74 million and is worth it.

[squidkid]

Never. Mike Wallace is not a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers at this time as he has not signed his tender and therefore is not under contract. He is not required to report to camp or show up anywhere.

They could still drop his tender amount at any time but have stated they will not do so because he has earned the 2.74 million and is worth it.

not positive but i believe that the only day that they could reduce his tender was june 15th

[8467thekraken]

I read somewhere that he is the only FA in the league who hasn't signed.

To me, when you extend professionalism towards the Rooneys, it is reciprocated.

Especially when they didn't knock down the offer when they could have.

Either his representation sucks or he is concussed. I really can't believe he was a no show.

[flippy]

Classy response...do you plan on cheering the multiple Ben-to-Wallace 40+ yard TD passes that will occur this season, or will you just still continue with the "F you wallace" attitude? Just curious (I don't understand the mindset of letting things like this get so personal...I doubt the folks who are directly involved such as Wallace/Cook or Colbert/Khan are taking this as personal as you are...it's just business...business tends to work it self out when both sides are motivated to get a deal done...and thus far, there is nothing to indicate that is no longer the case from either side).

While it may be irrational, I get where the sentiment comes from. Fans just want players to care as much about the team and winning as we do. Maybe it would have been better to say F the business aspect of football instead of F Wallace. But I suspect the intent was the same.

And the Steelers will always be the Steelers with or without Wallace, so I can see why the fan response would be anger toward the player instead of the team.

There is no rational in being a fanatic afterall

[Ghost]

I blame the agent the most. I don't care who his past/current players are, you have to understand how each individual team works. What Detroit did, what Jacksonville did, means nothing. The Steelers simply will not deal with you if you don't come to camp. It's a stance they've had for decades. Why this chump of an agent thinks he will suddenly get them to change their S.O.P is head scratching and stupid. They are not going to blink and now you've put your client in a no-win situation.

I am hoping to see ben airing it out to Wallace on a regular basis, but this team is FAR from lost if Wallace (and agent) continue to act like jack asses and don't show up.

"What I’m going to do is work with Emmanuel Sanders because he’s here, and be excited about doing it.” - Tomlin (for some reason I really like this statement. And while some may see it as a swipe; I actually believe this is how Tomlin feels. It's not personal but he genuinely loves working with the players. He's excited that camp has started.)

[Slapstick]

"What I’m going to do is work with Emmanuel Sanders because he’s here, and be excited about doing it.” - Tomlin (for some reason I really like this statement. And while some may see it as a swipe; I actually believe this is how Tomlin feels. It's not personal but he genuinely loves working with the players. He's excited that camp has started.)

Exactly!

Tomlin's job is to get this team ready to compete. He can't work with Wallace if Wallace doesn't show up...his only choice is to work with the players who reported. "The standard is the standard."

[squidkid]

I blame the agent the most. I don't care who his past/current players are, you have to understand how each individual team works. What Detroit did, what Jacksonville did, means nothing. The Steelers simply will not deal with you if you don't come to camp. It's a stance they've had for decades. Why this chump of an agent thinks he will suddenly get them to change their S.O.P is head scratching and stupid. They are not going to blink and now you've put your client in a no-win situation.

I am hoping to see ben airing it out to Wallace on a regular basis, but this team is FAR from lost if Wallace (and agent) continue to act like jack asses and don't show up.

"What I’m going to do is work with Emmanuel Sanders because he’s here, and be excited about doing it.” - Tomlin (for some reason I really like this statement. And while some may see it as a swipe; I actually believe this is how Tomlin feels. It's not personal but he genuinely loves working with the players. He's excited that camp has started.)

i fault the agent some too, but i believe it truly lies with wallace. he has been around this organization for 3 years, has seen players come and go and have teammates that have gone thru contract negotiations like this before. he has been told numerous times on how the steelers operate and what is the most successful way to negotiate. if he cant see that the iconic hines ward wasnt able to pull crap like this, what makes him think it would work for him?
the agent works for wallace, not the other way around. all wallce has to do is say he wants to sign it and negotiate like its been done in the past. the steelers have a history of taking care of their players that have it coming and go about it correctly.

[Iron Shiek]

you mean as classy as wallace is acting?
wallace isnt a steeler. he chooses not to be one. he is not doing anything to help his former team or teammates succeed. i will not support him until he becomes a member of this team. i will view him as any other nfl player that holds out, as a distraction. as a greedy player that only cares about himself and not the team, organization or fans.
i dont cheer for non steeler nfl players duringh the season unless they are helping my fantasy teams make me money. until he does something that benefits me or makes me happy, no i wont support him and have no reason to.

I'm sure you hold Hines Ward in high regard as many other Steeler fans do. You realize he basically did this same thing a couple times...I doubt you "hate" him as much as you are claiming to "dis-own" Wallace as a Steeler. Its a business, this stuff happens. Greedy or not, the NFL is set up in a way for this kind of thing to happen. In no circumstance do I expect it to drag late into the pre-season. Just take a deep breath and lay off the news for a day or two...

[RuthlessBurgher]

Hines had 2 years left on a contract when he didn't show up...that is the definition of a hold out.

Wallace is not currently signed, and therefore is not in camp. You can't just show up to a training camp and grab a helmet if you are not signed to an NFL contract. I'm not signed either, so I'm not in camp right now. At this point, without a signed contract, Mike Wallace is no more a Steeler than I am. He is not a hold out...he is a restricted free agent without a signed contract. Folks may think this is just a semantic argument, but there is a pretty large difference there...Hines was not living up to the contract terms that he agreed to, whereas Wallace hasn't agreed to any contract terms at all at this point.

[squidkid]

I'm sure you hold Hines Ward in high regard as many other Steeler fans do. You realize he basically did this same thing a couple times...I doubt you "hate" him as much as you are claiming to "dis-own" Wallace as a Steeler. Its a business, this stuff happens. Greedy or not, the NFL is set up in a way for this kind of thing to happen. In no circumstance do I expect it to drag late into the pre-season. Just take a deep breath and lay off the news for a day or two...

i like hines, but at the time he was pulling his crap i thought the same about him.

[grotonsteel]

I am not worried about this hold-out. Mike Wallace will be a long-term Steelers if Steelers FO wants him to be a Steelers.

Looking at what Mike Tomlin and few players are saying i think Mike Wallace will show up in training camp and sign a long term deal with Steelers.