How much do you want the steelers to pay wallace?

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  • squidkid
    Legend
    • Feb 2012
    • 5847

    How much do you want the steelers to pay wallace?

    I would like to see some people go on record on the wallace contract subject.
    Take into consideration of what you think wallaces brings to the team and how much you are willing to spend on those attributes.
    Lets use the length of contract that wallace will most likey see. Dont factor in the last few years of a super backloaded deal that the steelers wont ever pay.


    A) 6-6.5 mil per year
    B) 6.5-7 mil per year
    C) 7-7.5 mil per year
    D) 7.5-8 mil per year
    E) 8-8.5 mil per year
    F) 8.5-9 mil per year
    G) 9-9.5 mil per year
    H) 9.5-10 mil per year
    I) 10-10.5 mil per year
    H)10.5 +mil per year
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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35649

    #2
    I will go with F) 8.5-9 mil per year

    those #s are between what Marques Colsten and Desean Jackson signed for which seems about right to me...

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    • costanza2k1
      Hall of Famer
      • Mar 2008
      • 2579

      #3
      Incentive based, as he continues to become a complete WR...short to medium routes in particular his contract goes up. He can't base his contract demands on deep ball yardage alone...that didn't help us win the SB when needed the most (see Santonio Holmes)
      ours is not to wonder why just invert and multiply...

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      • Eddie Spaghetti
        Hall of Famer
        • Jul 2008
        • 4123

        #4
        Originally posted by costanza2k1
        Incentive based, as he continues to become a complete WR...short to medium routes in particular his contract goes up. He can't base his contract demands on deep ball yardage alone...that didn't help us win the SB when needed the most (see Santonio Holmes)
        so let me get this straight. Wallace now has to factor in WHERE he catches the ball to determine how much he gets paid? I find that patently absurd and would love to see another contract with that type of language.

        I think F is fair. Somewhere around 5 years, 45 million with about half that guaranteed.

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        • SteelCrazy
          Legend
          • Aug 2008
          • 5049

          #5
          I dont think he is worth more than 5 mil per. The guy is fast and that allows him to catch the deep ball. Teams have him figured out and it showed at the end of last season. It will continue to show at the beginning of this season.
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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #6
            I wouldn't go above 6.5 mill...
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            • SidSmythe
              Hall of Famer
              • Sep 2008
              • 4708

              #7
              I wouldn't work out a deal right now b/c of Antonio Brown.
              So I'd stay right where we are at and let Wallace and Brown prove this year who's the better WR.
              We won't be keeping both and I'd put my money on BROWN to be the better of the two.
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              • D Rock
                Hall of Famer
                • Dec 2008
                • 2797

                #8
                If Wallace put up his first half stats all last year he would be in the 10-11M/yr range. If he had the stats he had but had put them up in a more consistent fashion he would probably be in the 9-10M/yr range. Because he had a poor 2nd half of last season I think that gives the Steelers a bargaining chip and he should end up in the 8-9M/yr range with incentives that can push that towards the 10-11M if he shows the ability to be dominant for a full season. I'd say 6 years is the ideal contract length as that will take him to the age of 32 and if he is slowing down by them the team will know it and can cut ties, but if he is still cranking out productive seasons then the money he is being paid will be a great deal by that time.

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                • squidkid
                  Legend
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 5847

                  #9
                  B) Is my answer.
                  I would be okay if the steelers gave him this amount. His speed has to be accounted for for opposing defenses but I dont want to lose more valuable pieces of this team in the near future by giving all our cap to wallace. We keep talking about our 'elite' qb, great TE, super solid wrs, outstanding oline, mendy comimng back and the speed of rainey and batch in the backfield. Do we really need to spend a ton of money on a guy that just runs fast in a straight line? I dont think so.
                  steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                  • papillon
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 11340

                    #10
                    Well, as of right now aren't the Steelers about 5 million below the salary cap after releasing Scott the other day? Anything above 5 million then would come at a cost not only monetarily, but the Steelers would also have to release another player in all likelihood to get Wallace under the cap. At this point I'd rather see the Steelers stop negotiating, play the season and see who has the better year, Antonio Brown or Mike Wallace. They are not going to be able to keep both after this year, IMHO. Pay them their salaries, have them compete, pay the winner and chances are the other becomes a free agent and some other team benefits.

                    Receivers are being churned out in great number form college because of the focus on the passing game in the NFL. More colleges are preparing players for the NFL, good wide receivers can be had in almost any round.

                    I wouldn't pay him over 6 million per annum, but I don't write the checks or make the decisions; I did however, stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

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                    • steelnavy
                      Backup
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 307

                      #11
                      Pap, good post. Now whoever secretly reads this site from the Steelers organization will know the right amount to offer Wallace. I am with Steelcrazy on the pay. I really like him and what he can do for the team but he has never impressed me as a well rounded top tier wide receiver. Take away his speed and he is average. I want a guy who will come back after the ball, will fight the defender for it and will try to knock it out of the defenders hands. I didn't see that happen enough. I think he is the Willie Parker of wide receivers. Love him and want him to be a Steeler, but don't want to give him the money he is looking for. And frankly, I don't see many other teams feeling that kind of love either. So in the end, he could be holding out and affecting team chemistry (which hurts both him and the Steelers) for nothing.

                      And Pap, its Holiday Inn EXPRESS...

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                      • Sugar
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 3700

                        #12
                        I'll go with G. He's worth that, but I don't know that the Steelers CAN pay what he's worth so hopefully they can be creative and he can give them a break.

                        It's funny to me how many posters talk about what Wallace wants as if they knew something. How would any of us know what Wallace wants?

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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #13
                          start at about $6M in year 1 and work up to about $9M in year 5 or 6
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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #14
                            Originally posted by papillon
                            Well, as of right now aren't the Steelers about 5 million below the salary cap after releasing Scott the other day? Anything above 5 million then would come at a cost not only monetarily, but the Steelers would also have to release another player in all likelihood to get Wallace under the cap. At this point I'd rather see the Steelers stop negotiating, play the season and see who has the better year, Antonio Brown or Mike Wallace. They are not going to be able to keep both after this year, IMHO. Pay them their salaries, have them compete, pay the winner and chances are the other becomes a free agent and some other team benefits.

                            Receivers are being churned out in great number form college because of the focus on the passing game in the NFL. More colleges are preparing players for the NFL, good wide receivers can be had in almost any round.

                            I wouldn't pay him over 6 million per annum, but I don't write the checks or make the decisions; I did however, stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

                            Pappy
                            Totally agree!! WRs are too easy to replace. If Wallace balks at the offer, let him play for the tag amount and focus on extending Antonio Brown
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                            • steelnavy
                              Backup
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 307

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sugar
                              I'll go with G. He's worth that, but I don't know that the Steelers CAN pay what he's worth so hopefully they can be creative and he can give them a break.

                              It's funny to me how many posters talk about what Wallace wants as if they knew something. How would any of us know what Wallace wants?
                              Its funny how you can't logically infer that he wants A LOT of money from all of the facts that are there in front of you. What else would keep him from signing his contract and showing up? Maybe he's clinically depressed because Mr Roger's died?!?

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