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  • flippy
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    • Dec 2008
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    OT - Pitt to ACC Official

    Sorry to post a few OT threads on the main board, but there's no board for the Pirates or Pitt news.

    This is pretty exciting to me since I live in NC. I'll get to see more Pitt games. It's probably good for the basketball program because of the strength of the ACC in hoops. It'll be a tough schedule every year. But there's gotta be a draw to kids getting to play against Duke/UNC every year.

    Pitt should be able to do well in football. And it will probably be fun for the kids to get to play FSU, Miamia, GTech, etc.

    I used to like the Big East as a kid. But overall I think this is a good move. Can't wait til 2013.
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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
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    #2
    I think it is a great football move for Pitt. However, I think they actually take half a step back in basketball. Big East has been the top conference for b-ball the past few years. I do think other sports like soccer, baseball, track and field etc. will find the ACC much more demanding.
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    • feltdizz
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      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      I think it is a great football move for Pitt. However, I think they actually take half a step back in basketball. Big East has been the top conference for b-ball the past few years. I do think other sports like soccer, baseball, track and field etc. will find the ACC much more demanding.
      Big East is done... they really screwed up.

      I'm in NC too Flippy... this is huge. NCState, Wake, Clemson, UNC, Duke... these are going to be some epic battles especially with Cuse coming in 2014??
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      • Oviedo
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        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #4
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        Big East is done... they really screwed up.

        I'm in NC too Flippy... this is huge. NCState, Wake, Clemson, UNC, Duke... these are going to be some epic battles especially with Cuse coming in 2014??
        I agree that they screwed up and it will show in the future. They let small basketball schools take them down a path to being irrelevent in the dominant sport of football. The Big East is going to become a better version of Conference USA with some really strong basketball programs.

        For my local Central Florida moving to the Big East was a great move for them. Once they get rid of George O'Leary as head coach and get a really good football coach they could be the dominant football team in the Big East.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • Ghost
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          • May 2008
          • 6338

          #5
          I live 3 miles from Bobby Dodd Stadium. I can't wait to wear my Pitt gear the first time the Panthers play GA Tech! I should also see them more on TV down here than I currently do so that's cool as well.
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          • Notleadpoisoned
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            • Mar 2010
            • 554

            #6
            Pitt still needs some fans to fill those empty seats at Heinz Field on Saturdays. The lack of interest in Pitt home games has been somewhat embarrassing in recent years.

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            • Prowler
              Pro Bowler
              • Apr 2010
              • 1837

              #7
              Total rubbish. The Big East is not even close to being done. In fact, Pitt and Syracuse made a huge mistake going to the ACC. Consider the fact that the ACC is 2-13 in BCS bowl games and the Big East is 7-7. Plus the Big East champion put up 70 points against the ACC champion last season!! And if you want to use the argument that it was West Virginia who did this and that they will be a big loss to the BE as they go into the Big 12, consider the following. Boise State joins for 2013 and they have a much more successful program than West Virginia since 2004. Plus Boise has as many wins in BCS bowl games (2) as does the entire ACC combined. Combine this with up and coming programs like Houston, UCF and SanDiegoSt and you have the makings of a good competitive conference that is better than the ACC. Good riddance Pitt and Syralose!








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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27531

                #8
                BCS wins? I don't think that is all that important in the scheme of things when looking at conferences. Big East is a jumbled mess of basketball and football programs and it lacks cohesion. Basketball conference was beast but its all about football.

                Boise is a nice addition but I'm curious to see if they can dominate vs better competition.

                The ACC hasn't lived up to expectations on the field but I think they have a solid conference
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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Notleadpoisoned
                  Pitt still needs some fans to fill those empty seats at Heinz Field on Saturdays. The lack of interest in Pitt home games has been somewhat embarrassing in recent years.
                  They need their own stadium. Heinz is too big for a school this size.
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                  • Prowler
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1837

                    #10
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    BCS wins? I don't think that is all that important in the scheme of things when looking at conferences. Big East is a jumbled mess of basketball and football programs and it lacks cohesion. Basketball conference was beast but its all about football.

                    Boise is a nice addition but I'm curious to see if they can dominate vs better competition.

                    The ACC hasn't lived up to expectations on the field but I think they have a solid conference
                    How much more evidence do you need that Boise is the real deal? They are 6-0 against automatic bcs conferences in the last 3 years. They beat Oregon twice, Oregon State, Virginia Tech, Georgia and Arizona State. In those years in which they beat Oregon, Virginia Tech and Georgia those teams won their conferences division and or conference championship. That would be the Pac 12 winner twice, ACC winner and a SEC division championship team.








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                    • Slapstick
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                      • May 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Prowler
                      How much more evidence do you need that Boise is the real deal? They are 6-0 against automatic bcs conferences in the last 3 years. They beat Oregon twice, Oregon State, Virginia Tech, Georgia and Arizona State. In those years in which they beat Oregon, Virginia Tech and Georgia those teams won their conferences division and or conference championship. That would be the Pac 12 winner twice, ACC winner and a SEC division championship team.
                      I think that you have restated the issue perfectly: 6-0 in the last three years...

                      If they were 6-0 last year only, perhaps the perception would be different...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        #12
                        I think you mis-read my statement on Boise... It's foolish to discredit their record vs BCS teams.

                        However, there are a few things you are over looking. Every year Boise has the whole off season to prepare for their big BCS game vs an Oregon or VTech and they also get over a month to prepare for bowl games.

                        In the Big East they will face better competition week in and week out IMO. The Big East will be different without PITT and WVU but I still think the BE will have more talented next level players then Boise's current conference.
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                        • Prowler
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1837

                          #13
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          I think you mis-read my statement on Boise... It's foolish to discredit their record vs BCS teams.

                          However, there are a few things you are over looking. Every year Boise has the whole off season to prepare for their big BCS game vs an Oregon or VTech and they also get over a month to prepare for bowl games.

                          In the Big East they will face better competition week in and week out IMO. The Big East will be different without PITT and WVU but I still think the BE will have more talented next level players then Boise's current conference.
                          Hogwash. The BCS teams also have the whole offseason to prepare against Boise and they to have a month plus to prepare for the bowl games as well. Its equal for both sides so this notion that Boise has an advantage because they have a whole offseason to prepare is sour grapes and nothing more. Why be dishonest?








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                          • Slapstick
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                            • May 2008
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Prowler
                            Hogwash. The BCS teams also have the whole offseason to prepare against Boise and they to have a month plus to prepare for the bowl games as well. Its equal for both sides so this notion that Boise has an advantage because they have a whole offseason to prepare is sour grapes and nothing more. Why be dishonest?
                            No one is being dishonest. Having a different opinion is not being dishonest...

                            Now, we will all have the opportunity to see Boise State play against BCS automatic qualifiers almost every week, instead of once or twice per year...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Prowler
                              Hogwash. The BCS teams also have the whole offseason to prepare against Boise and they to have a month plus to prepare for the bowl games as well. Its equal for both sides so this notion that Boise has an advantage because they have a whole offseason to prepare is sour grapes and nothing more. Why be dishonest?
                              I'm not being dishonest... you are arguing about something totally different and using past success in 1 or 2 games a year vs BCS teams as proof they will run the table in the BE.

                              All I'm suggesting is playing Rutgers, UCONN, Louisville, UCF, Houston and USF is tougher than playing a Michigan State then following it up with Miami OH, BYU, Fresno, SDSU, Hawaii and Nevada. Nevada is the only team that consistently plays BCS schools like Mizzou, Texas Tech, Notre Dame, Auburn, etc... and they put up over 100 points in 2 games vs Boise recently.

                              Boise is going to play 6 or 7 Nevada's every year in the BE... if you think they will be just as successful it's your opinion. I'm skeptical, I don't think they can keep it up for a whole season. They have a new QB in Boise... they have 5 starters returning on offense and 1 on D. If you think Boise will run the table in the BE think again... I seriously doubt it and it's the reason they are moving to the BE. Even if they lose a few games they can get the auto bid... that wasn't happening in the SWAC? because the competition wasn't up to par.
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