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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35651

    Ben Roethlisberger remains underrated on 'Top 100'

    Ben Roethlisberger remains underrated on 'Top 100'

    By Gregg Rosenthal
    June 14, 2012

    Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is a two-time Super Bowl champion. Practically every game he plays is on national television. And yet he's still underrated.

    Roethlisberger came in at No. 30 on NFL Network's "Top 100: Players of 2012" rankings, which is up 11 spots from 2011. He's the fourth-ranked quarterback on the list, which would make it seem like he's plenty respected.

    And yet he was behind running backs Frank Gore, Arian Foster and Ray Rice on this installment of the show alone. We love that trio, but all running backs are replaceable. Roethlisberger was behind Clay Matthews during an off year. He's behind teammates James Harrison and Troy Polamalu. Please.

    If you were starting a team from scratch, would you consider taking any of those players before Roethlisberger? Big Ben is still improving. Harrison and Polamalu are declining.

    There is a misperception about Roethlisberger's 2011 campaign. He was not the reason that Pittsburgh fell short. In fact, we'd argue he took big-time steps as a decision-maker and quarterback compared to his excellent 2010 season, which ended in a Super Bowl shootout loss.

    Now 30 years old, Big Ben is at that sweet spot where his mental approach to the game has improved while his physical skills have yet to wane. Aaron Rodgers is there. Tom Brady and Drew Brees are already past it.

    We're not saying Roethlisberger should be ranked ahead of those three players, but he deserves to be in the discussion. He deserves to be a lot higher than No. 30.

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  • Jooser
    Legend
    • Jul 2008
    • 5106

    #2
    Absolute rubbish. Gronkowski and Matthews ahead of JH and Ben is a crime of intergalactic proportions. NFL Network blows sometimes. ....and they blew this one big time.
    ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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    • rpmpit
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 2004

      #3
      The top 100 is a popularity contest equivalent to high school yearbook awards. Best looking, class clown, most likely to succeed, etc. The players pick the "winners". A good example is Vick at 71 (I think??). Love him or hate him, you can't tell me that Vick is the 71st best player in the league. Ben seems to be respected throughout the league for his tough play and success. But there's that whole douche bag, alleged rapist thing still hanging over his head. Without the rep, Ben would be much higher (lower number - you know what I mean ).

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      • Jooser
        Legend
        • Jul 2008
        • 5106

        #4
        Originally posted by rpmpit
        The top 100 is a popularity contest equivalent to high school yearbook awards. Best looking, class clown, most likely to succeed, etc. The players pick the "winners". A good example is Vick at 71 (I think??). Love him or hate him, you can't tell me that Vick is the 71st best player in the league. Ben seems to be respected throughout the league for his tough play and success. But there's that whole douche bag, alleged rapist thing still hanging over his head. Without the rep, Ben would be much higher (lower number - you know what I mean ).
        The Gronkowski pick is a perfect example of this. The guy is only above average with anyone but Brady throwing to him all the time. Matthews is a stretch as well considering he was on one of the league's worst defensive units last season.
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        • flippy
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 17088

          #5
          Just win some more SuperBowls. Who cares if anyone likes you or not. Winning is the only thing that matters.
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          • D Rock
            Hall of Famer
            • Dec 2008
            • 2797

            #6
            Originally posted by Jooser
            The Gronkowski pick is a perfect example of this. The guy is only above average with anyone but Brady throwing to him all the time. Matthews is a stretch as well considering he was on one of the league's worst defensive units last season.
            I don't see how you say that about a TE who just followed up a 10 TD rookie season with a sophomore campaign in which he caught 90 balls for over 1300 yards and 17 TDs. Brady or no Brady, those are epic numbers for a TE and flat out the best season in NFL history a TE has ever had.

            Now Clay Matthews and his 50 tackles and 6 sacks last year? That's overrated.

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            • BradshawsHairdresser
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 7056

              #7
              #30? Should be scandalous. Even if you don't like Ben personally, how can you not list him as one of the top 10 players? He's easily #1 on the Steelers, and that's no disrespect to Polamalu or Harrison.

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27564

                #8
                Originally posted by Jooser
                The Gronkowski pick is a perfect example of this. The guy is only above average with anyone but Brady throwing to him all the time. Matthews is a stretch as well considering he was on one of the league's worst defensive units last season.
                I agree with Matthews but Gronk? No way.. every player on the list could get the "if they had a different _______ they would be average"

                Gronk is a beast and you can't blame the QB, scheme or team for his production...
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • phillyesq
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 7568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  I agree with Matthews but Gronk? No way.. every player on the list could get the "if they had a different _______ they would be average"

                  Gronk is a beast and you can't blame the QB, scheme or team for his production...
                  Yeah, Gronkowski is an absolute monster. Can't dispute his ranking.

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                  • squidkid
                    Legend
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 5847

                    #10
                    21 tds and 14 picks...............eh, pretty pedestrian to me.
                    it was based on last years perfromance, right?
                    30 seems a little high to me
                    steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27564

                      #11
                      Originally posted by squidkid
                      21 tds and 14 picks...............eh, pretty pedestrian to me.
                      it was based on last years perfromance, right?
                      30 seems a little high to me
                      I think some fans are rating Ben based on his career instead of 2011
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • squidkid
                        Legend
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 5847

                        #12
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        I think some fans are rating Ben based on his career instead of 2011

                        exactly.
                        the same thing is going on with the fans that are saying give wallace his 10-12 million a year. i dont care what he did his first three years in the league compared to anyone else. im not about paying the guy for his lifetime achievement , i want to pay him for what he is, a 1100 yard wr with 8 tds...............
                        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                        • Crash
                          Legend
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5008

                          #13
                          Ben's awful. Dump him.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35651

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Crash
                            Ben's awful. Dump him.

                            yeah, we can pretty much find any QB off the street to just hand the ball off 44% of the time...

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 35651

                              #15
                              Harrison and Roethlisberger are in the top 30 of NFL’s top 100

                              June 14th, 2012 by April O'Neil

                              Last night the NFL released number 21-30 on their top 100 of 2012 list, and two Steelers made that section of the list. James Harrion came in at number 29 and Ben Roethlisberger came in at number 30. This makes 5 Steelers that have made the list to date with still the top 20 players in the NFL to go. Mike Wallace, Maurkice Pouncey and LaMarr Woodley also made the list. The Steelers only have one more person left on the list and that’s Troy Polamalu. It’s no surprise that he will come in somewhere in the Top 20.

                              James Harrison dropped down 8 spots from last year’s list where he came in at 21st. That’s not surprising considering the injuries he had this year with his back and his eye. He had a slow start to the season. He definitely picked it up towards the end and is still one of the best at his position.

                              Ben Roethlisberger actually moved up 11 spots this year since he came in at number 41 last year. Roethlisberger had one his better statistical seasons this past year. But in that area he is still not in the top with Brady, Brees and company as far as yards and touchdowns. But I look for that to change with the new offensive coordinator this year. Hopefully next year he’ll crack the Top 20.

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