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  • Eddie Spaghetti
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 4123

    #16
    weak, not instinctive, doesn't seal the edge, etc.etc.

    yeah he's great.

    I know, its lebeaus fault. You and ovi should get a room.

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    • hawaiiansteel
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 35648

      #17
      By Dejan Kovacevic
      Published: Friday, June 15, 2012

      Mini-thoughts, mini-observations of the Steelers' minicamp that concluded Thursday on the South Side ...

      • James Harrison opened OTAs declaring himself healthy, then stayed off the field for most of the past three weeks. The new issue was fluid on the knee, which doesn't sound serious. But the old issue, the wonky back, still hasn't been silenced.

      You OK with Jason Worilds replacing him?

      Me neither.

      [URL]http://triblive.com/sports/1991975-74/haley-redman-steelers-issue-mike-mini-past-roethlisberger-weeks-minicamp[/URL]

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #18
        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
        By Dejan Kovacevic
        Published: Friday, June 15, 2012

        Mini-thoughts, mini-observations of the Steelers' minicamp that concluded Thursday on the South Side ...

        • James Harrison opened OTAs declaring himself healthy, then stayed off the field for most of the past three weeks. The new issue was fluid on the knee, which doesn't sound serious. But the old issue, the wonky back, still hasn't been silenced.

        You OK with Jason Worilds replacing him?

        Me neither.

        [URL]http://triblive.com/sports/1991975-74/haley-redman-steelers-issue-mike-mini-past-roethlisberger-weeks-minicamp[/URL]
        Thanks, Dejan...nothing against Worilds, but no one short of Greg Lloyd in his prime could replicate what Harrison does for us.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #19
          Originally posted by Steel Life
          ...but who's going to be the 7th out of this group? - Kade Weston, Al Woods, Corbin Bryant, Jake Stoller, Ikponmwosa Igbinosun. Weston, Stoller & Woods are PS fodder, "Ike" has the talent but is raw, so it really is about Bryant as he seems to have the backing of the coaching staff.
          Out of all of those players, Woods is the only one who was on the 53 man roster last year and has seen actual time in NFL games...

          I don't know that McClendon will spend a lot of time at DE...
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • Steelerphile
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2008
            • 1198

            #20
            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
            By Dejan Kovacevic
            Published: Friday, June 15, 2012

            Mini-thoughts, mini-observations of the Steelers' minicamp that concluded Thursday on the South Side ...

            • James Harrison opened OTAs declaring himself healthy, then stayed off the field for most of the past three weeks. The new issue was fluid on the knee, which doesn't sound serious. But the old issue, the wonky back, still hasn't been silenced.

            You OK with Jason Worilds replacing him?

            Me neither.

            [URL]http://triblive.com/sports/1991975-74/haley-redman-steelers-issue-mike-mini-past-roethlisberger-weeks-minicamp[/URL]
            Not many were comfortable with James Harrison until he was in the league several years and finally became a starter and could demonstrate what he was fully capable of. After Porter left and Harrison became a full time starter, there were very few if any fans who foresaw Harrison ever delivering DPOY type performances. So what, Dejan is not comfortable with Worilds right now. That is meaningless to me. Worilds has not hit his full potential, he is still developing. If he can shake the injury bug, he could turn out very well. Just like others before him have developed and become good players.

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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35648

              #21
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              That's because some fans won't ever get over the fact Worilds was selected over a LB from Penn State no matter what Worilds does.

              the Steelers had a first round grade on Sean Lee, yet bypassed him to take the oft-injured Jason Worilds because they had a bigger need at OLB.

              Steelers should have stuck to their draft philosophy of BPA...

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              • Steelerphile
                Pro Bowler
                • Dec 2008
                • 1198

                #22
                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                the Steelers had a first round grade on Sean Lee, yet bypassed him to take the oft-injured Jason Worilds because they had a bigger need at OLB.

                Steelers should have stuck to their draft philosophy of BPA...
                The Steelers are really hurting because they don't have sackmaster (zero sacks) Sean Lee. People need to get over that. Steelers still ranked No. 1 defensively and had a 12-4 record. Sean Lee led the 14th ranked defense and his team was out of the playoffs.

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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35648

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Steelerphile
                  The Steelers are really hurting because they don't have sackmaster (zero sacks) Sean Lee. People need to get over that. Steelers still ranked No. 1 defensively and had a 12-4 record. Sean Lee led the 14th ranked defense and his team was out of the playoffs.

                  Sean Lee had 4 interceptions last season, twice as many as all of the Steelers LBers combined.

                  Lee also had 105 tackles, more than any LB on the Steelers whose leading tackler ironically was Ryan Clark a free safety.

                  Sean Lee is a very good player who would have been a great replacement for James Farrior.

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                  • Steelerphile
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1198

                    #24
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    Sean Lee had 4 interceptions last season, twice as many as all of the Steelers LBers combined.

                    Lee also had 105 tackles, more than any LB on the Steelers whose leading tackler ironically was Ryan Clark a free safety.

                    Sean Lee is a very good player who would have been a great replacement for James Farrior.
                    When Tinmons had 149 tackles, many people still criticized Timmons and regarded that as not very much production. So 105 tackles is relatively good but why keep crying over this player. Lee is a good player, but there are a lot of good players on other teams that the Steelers didn't draft either. The Steelers still have a strong defense without him. What you're suggesting is that Worilds sucks and Lee is so good that the Steelers totally "whiffed", a word haters love to use, by selecting Worilds. I'm sorry but I'm not with you or Dejan on this. They will find a replacement for Farrior, in Foote, Sylvester or Sean Spence and march on successfully. I also believe that Worilds, if he is not deterred by chronic injuries will become a strong contributor on defense also. They might end up needing a replacement Harrison or at least someone to fill in sooner than expected. So they are developing Worilds. Lee is better at making interceptions, Worilds is better at rushing the QB. They both have their strengths. You and some others have already decided Worilds is not very good, but that perception could change completely in a season. I think the astute observers have already seen indications of Worilds ability, but maybe the less observant claim to have seen nothing yet. The story is still unfolding. It remains to be seen if Lee will remain healthy throughout his career since he has had injury issues in his past also.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35648

                      #25
                      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                      the Steelers had a first round grade on Sean Lee, yet bypassed him to take the oft-injured Jason Worilds because they had a bigger need at OLB.

                      Steelers should have stuck to their draft philosophy of BPA...


                      actually the main point I was attempting to make is that the Steelers supposedly always draft the BPA. yet, although they had a first round grade on Sean Lee they still chose Jason Worilds instead because OLB was deemed to be a bigger need at the time.

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        actually the main point I was attempting to make is that the Steelers supposedly always draft the BPA. yet, although they had a first round grade on Sean Lee they still chose Jason Worilds instead because OLB was deemed to be a bigger need at the time.
                        Do we really know they had a 1st Round grade on Lee and that they weren't worried about his knee injury or did some reporter say that?
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27532

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Steelerphile
                          When Tinmons had 149 tackles, many people still criticized Timmons and regarded that as not very much production. So 105 tackles is relatively good but why keep crying over this player. Lee is a good player, but there are a lot of good players on other teams that the Steelers didn't draft either. The Steelers still have a strong defense without him. What you're suggesting is that Worilds sucks and Lee is so good that the Steelers totally "whiffed", a word haters love to use, by selecting Worilds. I'm sorry but I'm not with you or Dejan on this. They will find a replacement for Farrior, in Foote, Sylvester or Sean Spence and march on successfully. I also believe that Worilds, if he is not deterred by chronic injuries will become a strong contributor on defense also. They might end up needing a replacement Harrison or at least someone to fill in sooner than expected. So they are developing Worilds. Lee is better at making interceptions, Worilds is better at rushing the QB. They both have their strengths. You and some others have already decided Worilds is not very good, but that perception could change completely in a season. I think the astute observers have already seen indications of Worilds ability, but maybe the less observant claim to have seen nothing yet. The story is still unfolding. It remains to be seen if Lee will remain healthy throughout his career since he has had injury issues in his past also.
                          Anytime the Steelers don't pick a LB from PSU the board cries over him for years...
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #28
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            Anytime the Steelers don't pick a LB from PSU the board cries over him for years...
                            So true. So true.

                            I am a PSU alum and I have no issue with them not picking Lee given his college injury. I guess everyone looks at PSU LBs and sees Jack Ham. PSU hasn't had that in years.

                            Prediction: With O'Brien in charge PSU may go from "Linebacker U" to "TE U"
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • phillyesq
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 7568

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              So true. So true.

                              I am a PSU alum and I have no issue with them not picking Lee given his college injury. I guess everyone looks at PSU LBs and sees Jack Ham. PSU hasn't had that in years.

                              Prediction: With O'Brien in charge PSU may go from "Linebacker U" to "TE U"
                              I'm not a Worilds hater, but given the choice of Worilds v. Lee, I would take Lee right now. Would you?

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                              • grotonsteel
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 2810

                                #30
                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                Anytime the Steelers don't pick a LB from PSU the board cries over him for years...
                                Well there is a reason for that. PSU is a LB university. I am not saying all LB from PSU are HOF players but you get good line backers from PSU.

                                Same thing like you don't draft WRs from Florida in Rd 1. More often than not they are bust.

                                Sean Lee right now is far better player than Jason. I am definitely not happy that they took Jason over Sean Lee especially when they had a Rd 1 grade on him.

                                Injuries was an issue with Sean but same can be said about jason w.
                                Steelers Draft 2015
                                Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
                                Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
                                Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
                                Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
                                Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
                                Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
                                Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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