Steelers' Rooney on Wallace: 'He should be here'

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  • Crash
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    • Apr 2009
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    #16
    That's not a contract, that's an offer sheet.

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    • Crash
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      • Apr 2009
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      #17
      Originally posted by phillyesq
      You always demand context and that we listen to the whole interview when you are defending a statement made by Ben. For the sake of consistency, I would expect the same from you in this situation
      Saying that a free agent "should be here" is wrong. He shouldn't say that when all Wallace is doing is exercising right as a free agent per the CBA agreement. What he should say is "I understand the business side of this process, we hope to have Mike back with us soon".

      Art II doesn't handle most PLAYER contracts. But he was the reason Bill Cowher quit after 2006.

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      • squidkid
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        • Feb 2012
        • 5847

        #18
        Originally posted by Crash
        That's not a contract, that's an offer sheet.
        im not talking about the tender. im talking about the contract offer that wallace is refusuing to take.
        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #19
          Originally posted by Crash
          Saying that a free agent "should be here" is wrong. He shouldn't say that when all Wallace is doing is exercising right as a free agent per the CBA agreement. What he should say is "I understand the business side of this process, we hope to have Mike back with us soon".

          Art II doesn't handle most PLAYER contracts. But he was the reason Bill Cowher quit after 2006.
          If the negotiations are in good faith, why shouldn't Wallace be there?

          Showing up would be taking the high road...
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • Crash
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            • Apr 2009
            • 5008

            #20
            Originally posted by Slapstick
            If the negotiations are in good faith, why shouldn't Wallace be there?

            Showing up would be taking the high road...
            He has to sign the tender. He can't show up unsigned like DeCastro can.

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            • Slapstick
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              • May 2008
              • 0

              #21
              Originally posted by Crash
              He has to sign the tender. He can't show up unsigned like DeCastro can.
              So, if he signs the tender, is he then not allowed to continue negotiations?
              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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              • Crash
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                • Apr 2009
                • 5008

                #22
                Originally posted by Slapstick
                So, if he signs the tender, is he then not allowed to continue negotiations?
                If he signs the tender he looses his leverage. The Steelers can simply tell him we're not talking anymore, go play for the $2.7 you signed for.

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                • Slapstick
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                  • May 2008
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                  #23
                  The Steelers can tell him that anyway...

                  Or, worse, they could say sign the $2.7 mil or we'll reduce it to 110% of last year...

                  RFA's don't have a lot of leverage to begin with...I guess I'd try catching some flies with honey...

                  We know that the Steelers don't blink...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • steelz09
                    Administrator
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 4675

                    #24
                    The bottom line is II can say what he wants, when he wants, and doesn't really need to answer to nobody except the other "investors". He's the face of the franchise from a business/ownership perspective. Whether you like it or not, you need to live with it.

                    And for the record, Wallace should be there. I would be willing to bet he has a 'decent' offer sheet at a minimum. I might go a bit further and say he has a 'fair' offer sheet. If thats the case, and I bet it is, he should be there. You say it's not fair to play "hardball". Wallace wants to play hard ball by not showing up for minicamp when he needs to be there to learn the new offense. The Steelers organization has every right to play hard ball and reduce his tender.
                    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                    • Crash
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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Slapstick
                      The Steelers can tell him that anyway...
                      Then he'll sit at home, report at the last possible time, play for 6 weeks, and either become a UFA or earn top 5 money for 2013.

                      Wallace holds the cards Slap.

                      We know that the Steelers don't blink..


                      They blinked for Hines in 2005, which is why Faneca left, and why this one could get ugly.


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                      • Crash
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                        • Apr 2009
                        • 5008

                        #26
                        Originally posted by steelz09
                        The bottom line is II can say what he wants, when he wants, and doesn't really need to answer to nobody except the other "investors". He's the face of the franchise from a business/ownership perspective. Whether you like it or not, you need to live with it.

                        And for the record, Wallace should be there. I would be willing to bet he has a 'decent' offer sheet at a minimum. I might go a bit further and say he has a 'fair' offer sheet. If thats the case, and I bet it is, he should be there. You say it's not fair to play "hardball". Wallace wants to play hard ball by not showing up for minicamp when he needs to be there to learn the new offense. The Steelers organization has every right to play hard ball and reduce his tender.
                        He's a free agent and he has his playbook. Nothing else really matters at this point.

                        The Steelers had a new OC in 2004 and Plax missed mini-camp. Then he went out and averaged 19 yards a pop when he showed up.

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                        • steelz09
                          Administrator
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4675

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Crash
                          He's a free agent and he has his playbook. Nothing else really matters at this point.

                          The Steelers had a new OC in 2004 and Plax missed mini-camp. Then he went out and averaged 19 yards a pop when he showed up.
                          Reading a playbook is not the same as executing it w/ your teammates on the field.
                          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                          • Crash
                            Legend
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5008

                            #28
                            Originally posted by steelz09
                            Reading a playbook is not the same as executing it w/ your teammates on the field.
                            He's a veteran. He'll be fine the first week he and Ben hit the practice field.

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                            • steelz09
                              Administrator
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 4675

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Crash
                              He's a veteran. He'll be fine the first week he and Ben hit the practice field.
                              Whatever... I'd like to see Sanders, and Brown get signed instead of dropping 50 mil on Wallace. I also think Maze is going to turn out to be a player. Then, I hope Wallace has a down year while Brown and Sanders have great years causing Wallace to probably lose 10-15 mil on his next contract (if he doesn't signed long term this year). That'll teach him to play hard ball.
                              Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
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                                #30
                                Wallace has no cards. So, he sits out and gets overpaid by another team next year...That'll teach the Steelers...

                                Also, Hines reported to camp before negotiations continued on his contract...he didn't sign and then report afterward..
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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