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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
    • 35651

    #16
    Originally posted by grotonsteel
    Running game sucked last season. Why do you want to run for the sake of it? If it is not working move on to passing. Try bubble screens or 3 yards dump or RB screens instead of running the ball. It will take the same time of the clock.

    If running game is working run 100% of the time but if it is not don't try to run the ball just to give your defense a breather and then blame Offense for poor scoring.
    what does Redman's last quote tell you, all you need to know in my opinion. other teams knew what was coming half of the time because Arians' running plays and designs were so predictable. many this is why our running game was so ineffective...


    Isaac Redman Talks about the Advantages of Pittsburgh’s New Offense, his Grasp on the System and his Chance to Start at RB

    June 8, 2012 – by Brad Gagnon

    On if being forced to learn an offense forces everyone to concentrate harder:

    “It does. It’s gonna take everybody to go home, watch film, go home and stay in the play book. As far as — last year a lot of guys probably just took it for granted, ‘I know this, I know that,’ and maybe not as crisp as we could’ve been, especially in the red zone last year. So now every single one of us is gonna have to be in our playbook knowing exactly what we need to do and exactly where we need to be.

    And also, you gotta look at it, the other teams that we play, especially in our conference, they were used to us running the same plays and kinda had our playbook down and kinda knew what we were running.

    Now, they got a whole new offense that they have to prepare for.”

    [URL]http://sportsradiointerviews.com/201...o-start-at-rb/[/URL]

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    • grotonsteel
      Hall of Famer
      • Jul 2008
      • 2810

      #17
      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
      And also, you gotta look at it, the other teams that we play, especially in our conference, they were used to us running the same plays and kinda had our playbook down and kinda knew what we were running.
      I am not so sure about that HS but hey Redman knows 1000 times more about football than me. Well i hope he is right about this though.

      How many times have we complained about Red Zone offense. I think it has been the same tune since BA took over.

      Todd Haley never had a great running game in Arizona if i recall correctly but he had explosive passing game and i am hoping for the same. 3 steelers WRs reaching 1000 yards this season. Mendy being used more like LT rather than trying RUTM every single freaking play.
      Last edited by grotonsteel; 06-13-2012, 06:11 PM.
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      • Flasteel
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4008

        #18
        Originally posted by grotonsteel
        If Flippy brings down run % to 60% instead of 70% i think half the steeler nation would reply to it positively.
        I'll bet you are wrong. I'd go so far as to say that not a single regular poster on this forum would want to run the ball 60% of the time. I'm talking season average here. Certain situations will demand we go heavy on the run. This idea that any significant number of Steeler fans blindly defend the defense and have no criticism of the offense is pure imagination. Most of us are going to call it like we see it on both sides of the ball.
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        • skyhawk
          Hall of Famer
          • Dec 2008
          • 3733

          #19
          Originally posted by Crash
          10 games? LeBeau's 4th quarter scheme has sucked FOR YEARS.
          This is why I have heartburn AND have drank too much beer by the end of the 4th (and high blood pressure). They HAVE had the worst 4th Q D in the league for at least 4-5 years. And I say it for almost every game at the Steeler's bar and everyone looks at me like I am crazy.

          If we get a score in the 4th, the opponent seems to SCORE right after. Now, I know the other team gets paid to play and win, but it happens so much I wonder about the scheme and the conditioning of the D late in the game.

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          • Flasteel
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 4008

            #20
            The 4th quarter collapses have been common place since the Bengals killed us in the 4th quarter at the end of the 2001 season. It's not just the 4th quarter, it's also 3rd down and long. My buddy and I always prefer to see us face 3rd and short, instead 3rd and long...despite how ridiculous that sounds. I also look at the ability of smart, accurate quarterbacks to consistently carve this defense apart. We feast on the vast majority of the QB's in this league (I would bet we have one of the lowest opposing QB ratings in the league over the past decade), but the the guys we've faced who can make quick reads and deliver the ball have chewed us up more often than not.

            I think part of this has been LeBeau's philosophy of keeping everything in front of you and limit the big play...his infamous "5-yard cushion". The other part has been the type of players we draft at corner. We haven't chased down a guy who can press and play man coverage...it's always the zone guy, who's smart and can tackle well. Ike is the only corner we've had since Woodson who could lock a guy down.

            I have always loved the way this team plays defense, but have been critical of these flaws for many, many years. Two years ago, I took notice that LeBeau began to finally start blending in a few tight cushions and some "0" coverage after Brady shredded us. I think he immediately took notice of how effective this type of coverage could be and we targeted corners in last year's draft that can help us do a lot more of it. The quintessential example is how we played Brady last year. We pressed his receivers and suffocated them as soon as they caught the ball. I think Brady completed only one pass downfield and half his yards went to Gronkowski.

            Now that Lewis, Allen, and Brown are set to take on a more prominent role in the defense, I think we'll see even more of this in 2012. If Woodley and Harrison can both stay on the field this year, I think this defense will be dominant in both phases and for 60 minutes. Maybe I'm wearing some black-n-gold goggles, but we'll see.

            The Denver game was not this issue. That was a combination of LeBeau and the players selling out against the run and Ike having a wretched game against Thomas.
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            • Slapstick
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 0

              #21
              It's also a matter of Thomas benefitting from a strong running game...
              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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              • Crash
                Legend
                • Apr 2009
                • 5008

                #22
                Oh please Denver's offense was a freaking joke. They ran because Tebow couldn't be trusted to throw the football.

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #23
                  They ran well for whatever reason...

                  And, when Tebow and his WRs have a good day, he showed he can beat teams with his arm...

                  Of course, he sucked the following week...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • BradshawsHairdresser
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 7056

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Crash
                    Oh please Denver's offense was a freaking joke. They ran because Tebow couldn't be trusted to throw the football.
                    Guess you and LeBeau think alike. DL played the Donks as though Tebow couldn't be trusted to throw the football...and we saw what the result was.

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                    • Crash
                      Legend
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                      Guess you and LeBeau think alike. DL played the Donks as though Tebow couldn't be trusted to throw the football...and we saw what the result was.
                      LeBeau played the Broncos like Cowher used to play Steve McNair: Scared too blitz.

                      And like I told Slap, I CALLED IT, a week before we played them.

                      I know LeBeau better than he knows himself at this point.

                      Old, slow, and it's over? Nope.

                      Try outdated, stale, and figured out.

                      630 yards and 5 TD passes given up in two straight playoff games.

                      When will he be held accountable for it?

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                      • Chadman
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 6537

                        #26
                        Chadman blames facial hair. There seems to be an ever increasing volume of facial hair in the Steelers locker room. That can't be good.

                        Until the facial hair issue is dealt with, the Steelers are long odds to win a SB.
                        The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                        Light up the darkness.

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                        • Jooser
                          Legend
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 5106

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Chadman
                          Chadman blames facial hair. There seems to be an ever increasing volume of facial hair in the Steelers locker room. That can't be good.

                          Until the facial hair issue is dealt with, the Steelers are long odds to win a SB.
                          Thank God someone finally had the brass cajones to point that out. Chadman, I honor your courage my friend. ...and I'd like to add that I don't believe it's just facial hair, some members of the defense have too much hair period! I believe Troy is football fast, but is he HAIR fast? Face it, that's a lot of extra weight to carry around, not to mention aerodynamic deficiencies that naturally occur....no damn wonder we blow these 4th quarter leads, it's HAIR FATIGUE!!! DL needs called up on the carpet and make haircuts a top priority, NOW!!!
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                          • flippy
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 17088

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Jooser
                            Thank God someone finally had the brass cajones to point that out. Chadman, I honor your courage my friend. ...and I'd like to add that I don't believe it's just facial hair, some members of the defense have too much hair period! I believe Troy is football fast, but is he HAIR fast? Face it, that's a lot of extra weight to carry around, not to mention aerodynamic deficiencies that naturally occur....no damn wonder we blow these 4th quarter leads, it's HAIR FATIGUE!!! DL needs called up on the carpet and make haircuts a top priority, NOW!!!
                            Good point guys. But these hair things can have a lingering impact even after they're gone. See Mike Wallace and his old mohawk. Everyone knew it was douchey. It slowed him down. He got rid of it. And his play improved. But look at his contract situation. It's clear the Steelers are deal with the same guy that used to sport a mohawk.
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                            • Jooser
                              Legend
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5106

                              #29
                              Also true Flip. The mohawk may have warped Mike's hands a bit too. The constant prepping it takes to make it look good probably caused hand fatigue, thus resulting in a few drops. DL set the tone for the improper hair and needs to shoulder the blame here, not Bruce Arians.
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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jooser
                                Also true Flip. The mohawk may have warped Mike's hands a bit too. The constant prepping it takes to make it look good probably caused hand fatigue, thus resulting in a few drops. DL set the tone for the improper hair and needs to shoulder the blame here, not Bruce Arians.

                                It does kind of cheese me off that a dude almost twice my age has three times as mch hair as I do...

                                It's not natural...
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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