What's The Problem With Rushing the Football?

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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    Originally posted by Crash
    You may understand that. Most here don't.

    They'd rather run the ball. quit, and lose a game without even trying to win all for the sake of "balance".
    "Most here" would rather run the ball. quit, and lose a game without even trying to win all for the sake of "balance," eh?

    Okay, name one Steeler fan...ONE SINGLE PERSON...who would prefer that. You can't. No one on this board would. No one in Heinz Field on Steeler Sundays. No one watching at home or at a sport bar. This mythical yinzer who prefers running the ball to winning exists only in your own mind.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • DukieBoy
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3488

      Originally posted by Crash
      Guess what Slap? WHIZ was the OC in that game, not Arians.

      But all I hear from brain dead sheep is how the defense didn't blow leads when we played "Cowher Ball".

      A bit contemptuous here, Crash? Feeling like you are losing your argument?





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      • Crash
        Legend
        • Apr 2009
        • 5008

        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        "Most here" would rather run the ball. quit, and lose a game without even trying to win all for the sake of "balance," eh?

        Okay, name one Steeler fan...ONE SINGLE PERSON...who would prefer that. You can't. No one on this board would. No one in Heinz Field on Steeler Sundays. No one watching at home or at a sport bar. This mythical yinzer who prefers running the ball to winning exists only in your own mind.
        When the Steelers lose a game, regardless of how it happened. The first thing you will hear out of fans and media is "why didn't they run more?"

        Without realizing, that when you are down big, that you don't have time to run the friggin' ball.
        Last edited by Crash; 06-14-2012, 11:47 AM.

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        • Crash
          Legend
          • Apr 2009
          • 5008

          Originally posted by DukieBoy

          A bit contemptuous here, Crash? Feeling like you are losing your argument?
          Not at all. Cap said we didn't blow 4th quarter leads when we played Cowher Ball.

          He's wrong.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27531

            Originally posted by Crash
            When the Steelers lose a game, regardless of how it happened. The first thing you will hear out of fans and media is "why didn't they run more?"

            Without realizing, that when you are down big, that you don't have time to run the friggin' ball.
            when are we ever down "big?" It's very rare and for you to use that scenario shows how bad you are losing this argument.

            The problem with Arians though was anytime we were down 7 or less it was 30 yard pass plays.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Crash
              Legend
              • Apr 2009
              • 5008

              Originally posted by feltdizz
              when are we ever down "big?" It's very rare and for you to use that scenario shows how bad you are losing this argument
              See the Denver playoff game? They were down 20-6 at half.

              First thing out of Bob Pompiani's yap after the game: "Why didn't they run more?"

              Yeah Bob, down 20-6 with 30 minutes to go and later down 23-13 in the second half (after another give back score, imagine that). Let's run the ball.

              Yinzers know three things: Blame Ben, run the ball, and the defense is untouchable.

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              • steelz09
                Administrator
                • Jan 2008
                • 4675

                Originally posted by Crash
                When the Steelers lose a game, regardless of how it happened. The first thing you will hear out of fans and media is "why didn't they run more?"

                Without realizing, that when you are down big, that you don't have time to run the friggin' ball.
                That's not even remotely true... I remember losing to the Raiders a few years back when they scored a bunch of points and the defense was absolutely terrible that game. No one was blaming the offense on that loss. Trying to make a blanketed statement that every loss results in fans saying "We should run more" is just plain false.
                Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  Originally posted by Crash
                  See the Denver playoff game? They were down 20-6 at half.

                  First thing out of Bob Pompiani's yap after the game: "Why didn't they run more?"

                  Yeah Bob, down 20-6 with 30 minutes to go and later down 23-13 in the second half (after another give back score, imagine that). Let's run the ball.

                  Yinzers know three things: Blame Ben, run the ball, and the defense is untouchable.
                  Pompiani saw the same thing that I did...

                  In the 2nd quarter, when the Steelers were down 7-6 (after a drive stalled at the Denver 29 and another at the Denver 20 - 2 FGs):

                  1st Steelers possession: incomplete pass - incomplete pass (because of a challenge) - incomplete pass - punt (0:15 elapsed)

                  2nd Steelers possession: run - sack - INT (returned to Pittsburgh 1 - (1:22 elapsed)

                  3rd Steelers possession: DEN penalty - run - DEN penalty (1st down) - Incomplete Pass - Run - Pass (7 yards on 3rd and 10) - Punt (2:09 elapsed)

                  THEN, on the Steelers' next possession, they were down 20-6...

                  The time to run was not necessarily when they were down, though Redman's running in the second half helped out tremendously in tying the game...the better time to run is when the game is close...

                  We've established that the defense was horrendous in the 2Q...

                  But, as you can see, the offense in the 2Q was equally piss-poor...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • Crash
                    Legend
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5008

                    I agree. Run 50 times a game.

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      Originally posted by Crash
                      I agree. Run 50 times a game.
                      You agree with whom?
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • Crash
                        Legend
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 5008

                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        You agree with whom?
                        People that want 50% total runs. I'm all for it.

                        Run the ball!

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          If the Steelers run 50% of the time and that = running 50 times, then the Steelers will have 100 offensive plays per game...

                          I'd be cool with that...

                          And with 50 passing attempts per game, Ben would have around 800 pass attempts...more than enough for a $15 mil QB....
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            Originally posted by Crash
                            People that want 50% total runs. I'm all for it.

                            Run the ball!

                            I'm all for running 50% of the time on first downs and on first downs in the red zone.

                            imagine how much more effective we will be when the defense isn't yelling "they're coming this way"...

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