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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    Originally posted by Crash
    Haley ran their offense until he was fired. Haley ran their offense in 2009 after he ran off Chan Gailey in pre-season.

    The dude is a wacko, but because his Daddy worked for us we are now stuck with him.

    And if Art II forced him on Tomlin like some suggest? I can't see Tomlin staying here when it's time to re-up. He'll go somewhere else where he's allowed to pick his own staff.
    Why do you want Tomlin to stay anyway? He's decided to keep a senile old man who has no clue how to run a defense on the first drive of a game, after the offense scores, or in the 4th quarter. And on offense, he either wanted to keep an O.C. who ran the ball on first down 58% of the time and 65% of the time in the red zone, or he wanted to replace him with a schizo wacko golf coach who only got hired because his Dad worked here a few decades ago. Am I missing anything? Since you seemingly hate every coaching decision this team has made since, well, forever, it seems, shouldn't Tomlin be facing the brunt of your wrath as well?
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • Crash
      Legend
      • Apr 2009
      • 5008

      That's a great point. Even more reasons for him to go if he has to abide by Art's wishes.

      Tomlin can't fire LeBeau. Too many Yinzers would roast him for it and I don't think II would let him anyway.

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35649

        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        Why do you want Tomlin to stay anyway? He's decided to keep a senile old man who has no clue how to run a defense on the first drive of a game, after the offense scores, or in the 4th quarter. And on offense, he either wanted to keep an O.C. who ran the ball on first down 58% of the time and 65% of the time in the red zone, or he wanted to replace him with a schizo wacko golf coach who only got hired because his Dad worked here a few decades ago. Am I missing anything? Since you seemingly hate every coaching decision this team has made since, well, forever, it seems, shouldn't Tomlin be facing the brunt of your wrath as well?

        fire Tomlin, the senile old DC and the golf coach.

        cut Sanders, AB and Wallace since we won't be throwing the ball on every down.

        and most of all, trade Ben since we aren't utilizing his talents to the utmost.

        that should about do it I think...

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27531

          Originally posted by Crash
          Haley thought the 2007 Cards were better off starting Matt Leinert over Kurt Warner.

          Friggin' genius.
          I don't think it had anything to do with being better off. Cards invested in LEinart and wanted him to be the future but he wasn't up to it.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
            fire Tomlin, the senile old DC and the golf coach.

            cut Sanders, AB and Wallace since we won't be throwing the ball on every down.

            and most of all, trade Ben since we aren't utilizing his talents to the utmost.

            that should about do it I think...
            Every yinzer's dream...if only we could bring back the glory days or Walter Abercrombie toting the rock...
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • Crash
              Legend
              • Apr 2009
              • 5008

              Originally posted by feltdizz
              I don't think it had anything to do with being better off. Cards invested in LEinart and wanted him to be the future but he wasn't up to it.
              What? You mean they used Leinert because they paid him big money? I'll be damned.

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              • flippy
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 17088

                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Every yinzer's dream...if only we could bring back the glory days or Walter Abercrombie toting the rock...
                And Frank Pollard as a change of pace.

                Walter and Frank in the pony package.

                Now we're talking.
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                • steelz09
                  Administrator
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4675

                  Originally posted by Slapstick
                  Please...

                  You complain about the defense giving up the lead in the Houston game after the offense tied it in the 4th quarter...

                  The offense tied it at 10...so, for three quarters, the offense managed 3 points...

                  Most teams are happy if the defense can hold the opposing team to a totla of 17 points...with the firepower the Steelers have at QB and WR, they should be ecstatic when the Steelers D holds an opponent to 10 points through 3 quarters...

                  This is why Arians is gone...

                  This is why fans have such high hopes for the guy you call "the golf coach"...because he seems to find a way to use the talent he has on the roster...

                  And, don't bring up the Charlie Weis thing again...when Weis called the plays in 2010, he had Cassel for 15 games and Charles for 16...

                  In 2011, Cassel played 9 games and Charles played in 2...
                  Right ... We should never lose if our defense holds a team to 17 teams. NEVER. With our weapons, we have NO excuse to close 17 or less. We shouldn't be under 24 and that's on average.
                  Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                  • grotonsteel
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2810

                    Originally posted by steelz09
                    Right ... We should never lose if our defense holds a team to 17 teams. NEVER.
                    You will always lose if you allow J Scott to go against Mario Williams away from home. Every QB will get happy feet seeing that matchup.
                    Steelers Draft 2015
                    Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
                    Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
                    Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
                    Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
                    Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
                    Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
                    Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27531

                      Originally posted by Crash
                      What? You mean they used Leinert because they paid him big money? I'll be damned.
                      I think it had nore to do with wanting Leinart to solidify the QB position for the next 10 years...
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35649

                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        I think it had more to do with wanting Leinart to solidify the QB position for the next 10 years...
                        and I think it had a lot to do with the Cardinals just being the Cardinals...

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                        • Eich
                          Legend
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 7043

                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          fire Tomlin, the senile old DC and the golf coach.

                          cut Sanders, AB and Wallace since we won't be throwing the ball on every down.

                          and most of all, trade Ben since we aren't utilizing his talents to the utmost.

                          that should about do it I think...
                          Yep - and bring in real team guys like TO, Moss, Jeff George, Antonio Bryant. LOL !

                          You'd think this team was a perennial cellar dweller like the Bungles & Stains, the way that Crash rips them and their decisions.

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                          • Crash
                            Legend
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5008

                            Originally posted by Eich
                            Yep - and bring in real team guys like TO, Moss, Jeff George, Antonio Bryant. LOL !

                            You'd think this team was a perennial cellar dweller like the Bungles & Stains, the way that Crash rips them and their decisions.
                            Actually the way Art treats his $102 million QB you'd think he was a ringless choker like Kordell Stewart was.

                            Hell Kordell got MORE RESPECT than Ben gets.

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                            • BURGH86STEEL
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 6921

                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              The Pats put a lot of points on the board except when they play the Giants. LOL...

                              The Saints struggled vs a more balanced team last year in the playoffs. The Saints also needed an onside kick and a pick 6 to beat the Colts.

                              WE spend a lot of time talking about these explosive offenses but they aren't winning more than us... just winning in a different style and when they lose in the playoffs it tends to be lopsided and ugly.
                              The bottom line is the Saints and Pats score points. Turnovers were the problem for the Saints vs the Niners. The Saints gave the ball away 5 times. Not going to win a lot of games giving the ball away. That being said, the Saints still scored 32 points with 5 turnovers vs the Niners.

                              Many fans believe the Steelers offense should be on par with the Saints and Pats, I don't. I know the Steelers don't have the type of QB that's proven he can take the Steeler's offense to the next level. I will remain skeptical of Ben's ability to take the offense to next level until he gets it done. People can talk about the great weapons of the Steelers offense all they want. The offense will struggle to score points if the QB can't produce TD's when the opportunities are available.

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                              • Crash
                                Legend
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5008

                                The offense will struggle to score points if the QB can't produce TD's when the opportunities are available.


                                Dammit Ben! Hand off better!

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