What's The Problem With Rushing the Football?

[Crash]

a QB in the range of 4000 yds, 30 TDs, 12 Ints, and 65% completions?

yeah that would suck...

Palmer is the king of garbage time. He's just like Philip Rivers, he does nothing when the game matters, they get way behind, and then teams back off and he looks "good".

Yeah, let's turn Ben into a guy who's never won a playoff game and who quit on his teammates.

Just the kind of "leader" I want in my huddle.

[SteelCrazy]

And the MINUTE they go away from Marty ball, and it fails? The offense gets blamed for the defense not making plays.

Protecting the defense's reputation is priority #1 in Pittsburgh. Always has been and always will be.

The Defense protects its own reputation by playing lights out all year long. But I guess being ranked 1st in the league almost every year is just Steeler Nations imagination running wild........

[Crash]

Yeah lights out all year.

Someone forgot to tell Joe Flacco and Tim Tebow.

The defense gets protected when our offense holds the ball.

You can't ignore the countless times this defense gives up points to start games, and when they give up points after we score ourselves.

[SteelCrazy]

The Ben Agenda is getting old. The guy is great and I wouldnt want any other QB behind Pouncey, but our D is consistent year in and year out. Not saying Ben isnt consistent because he is, but the rest of our Offense leaves a lot to be desired.

[Crash]

The protect the defense agenda is old. The 4th quarter defense is old. The give back points is old. The giving up points to start games is old.

We hold the ball on offense, the defense looks good.

When that doesn't happen? They usually look bad against quality teams.

[SteelCrazy]

The protect the defense agenda is old. The 4th quarter defense is old. The give back points is old. The giving up points to start games is old.

We hold the ball on offense, the defense looks good.

When that doesn't happen? They usually look bad against quality teams.

you're right....the defense sucks and holds us back every year

[D Rock]

The protect the defense agenda is old. The 4th quarter defense is old. The give back points is old. The giving up points to start games is old.

We hold the ball on offense, the defense looks good.

When that doesn't happen? They usually look bad against quality teams.

you don't think any of that has anything to do with the evolution of the game which you cite as the reason why the Steelers needs to pass more and run less?

You can't have it both ways. If the game has changed to the point where the offense needs to pass and score more to keep up with the average, then you can't blame the defense for giving up more points. They are still the league's best defense even if they aren't the defense from years past that you want them to be.

[Crash]

you're right....the defense sucks and holds us back every year

If any other DC gave 630 yards and 5 TD passes in two straight playoff games they'd be fired.

Not Teflon LeBeau. As long as he can beat up doormats? Ownership is happy.

[SteelCrazy]

If any other DC gave 630 yards and 5 TD passes in two straight playoff games they'd be fired.

Not Teflon LeBeau. As long as he can beat up doormats? Ownership is happy.

With the D getting younger, we'll see a huge improvement this year. We kept BA for 5 years and he flat out sucked. Ask Todd Haley what he thinks of the old playbook.

[Crash]

you don't think any of that has anything to do with the evolution of the game which you cite as the reason why the Steelers needs to pass more and run less?

Sure, but the same problems have been there long before Roger Goodell showed up and pussified the NFL.

Dick LeBeau's defense blows 4th quarter leads because his scheme in the 4th quarter stinks.

It's his trademark.

[url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=240912023[/url]

That's was LeBeau's first game back. No Roethlisberger, the eveil pass happy BA was not the OC, and you got three short rush TDs from the beloved Jerome Bettis, and they had leads of 14-0 and 21-10.

And what happened in the 4th quarter?

They backed off as usual, they blew the lead, and Tommy Maddox this time, saved LeBeau's ass once again.

And this same stuff, happens CONSTANTLY. Because LeBeau's 4th quarter scheme stinks.

[Crash]

With the D getting younger, we'll see a huge improvement this year. We kept BA for 5 years and he flat out sucked. Ask Todd Haley what he thinks of the old playbook.

Ask Chiefs fans what they think of Haley's offense the two years he ran it.

The one year he didn't, they made the playoffs.

[SteelCrazy]

Sure, but the same problems have been there long before Roger Goodell showed up and pussified the NFL.

Dick LeBeau's defense blows 4th quarter leads because his scheme in the 4th quarter stinks.

It's his trademark.

[URL]http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=240912023[/URL]

That's was LeBeau's first game back. No Roethlisberger, the eveil pass happy BA was not the OC, and you got three short rush TDs from the beloved Jerome Bettis, and they had leads of 14-0 and 21-10.

And what happened in the 4th quarter?

They backed off as usual, they blew the lead, and Tommy Maddox this time, saved LeBeau's ass once again.

And this same stuff, happens CONSTANTLY. Because LeBeau's 4th quarter scheme stinks.

That is one area I will agree with you in........That wussy 10 yard cushion has cost us several games, but they know the risk and feel its our best shot. Look what Tebow did to us when we didnt give that cushion.

[grotonsteel]

The Defense protects its own reputation by playing lights out all year long. But I guess being ranked 1st in the league almost every year is just Steeler Nations imagination running wild........

I disagree somewhat. If Steelers Offense is not winning TOP battle Steelers Defense will struggle atleast against good QB. Let Haley and Tomlin take the gloves off the offense. If passing is working pass the damn freaking ball 70-80% of the time.

Major reason for playing Marty Ball is to give Steelers Defense a breather. Offense take a hit because of that. Brady will be throwing even when 2 min are left and they are leading by 20 points. Can't say the same about the Steelers Offense.

[grotonsteel]

I'd like to see 70+% passing. Everything from long balls, interior routes and dump-offs to the backs and everything else. I'd like to see our weapons used as much as possible and spreading the love through the air. We don't have Bubby Brister behind center anymore, so let's pass until Ben complains that it's too much!

I would like to see more passing on first downs and in red zone. I would like to see more 4-wides in the game. Start running the ball when temp drops. If passing is working in a game keep passing the ball peppered with run plays here and there to keep Defense honest. Just don't revert to Marty-Ball.

Ben is the play maker give him the keys. Don't try to run the ball just to please Defense and some fans.

Don't buy a Ferrari and drive through residential area. Take it on a free way or Bonneville.

[SteelCrazy]

I dont care if we throw 50 times a game or run 40....I just want to win.