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  • birtikidis
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4628

    #76
    Yea but decastro has taken snaps in meaningful games on a full time basis. During that time colon was sitting with a cast on. Let him fight it out with foster till he gets back up to speed.

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    • Chadman
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 6537

      #77
      Here's betting by years end we all love Willie Colon. His biggest issue has always been his lack of foot speed on the outside. At OG, that isn't such a problem. Strength-wise, he is a beast. Between his brute force & DeCastro's skill & Pouncey's athletisism- the Steelers have a hell of an interior OL.
      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

      Light up the darkness.

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      • Va Steelr
        Backup
        • Dec 2009
        • 138

        #78
        Chadman is correct !!! as usual

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        • Jooser
          Legend
          • Jul 2008
          • 5102

          #79
          Originally posted by Chadman
          Here's betting by years end we all love Willie Colon. His biggest issue has always been his lack of foot speed on the outside. At OG, that isn't such a problem. Strength-wise, he is a beast. Between his brute force & DeCastro's skill & Pouncey's athletisism- the Steelers have a hell of an interior OL.
          Yep, I agree Chadman. This should make us more potent in an area we've been very weak in the past. Inside the five, when we need to punch it in. Short goal line situations should be unstoppable with this interior line and Redman punching it in, or Ben QB sneaking in even.
          ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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          • birtikidis
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 4628

            #80
            Am I the only one worried that we have a rookie and a guy who hasn't taken a snap in two years protecting our franchise qb's blindside?

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            • Flasteel
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4004

              #81
              Originally posted by birtikidis
              Am I the only one worried that we have a rookie and a guy who hasn't taken a snap in two years protecting our franchise qb's blindside?
              I'm more excited than worried, but I recognize it as an unknown at this point.
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              • birtikidis
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4628

                #82
                Excited is putting a first round talent at a position for the first time.
                worried is putting an oft injured veteran who has never played the position before and who may not have ever deserved to start at any position before. and making him the starter.

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                • Crash
                  Legend
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5008

                  #83
                  Originally posted by birtikidis
                  Excited is putting a first round talent at a position for the first time.
                  worried is putting an oft injured veteran who has never played the position before and who may not have ever deserved to start at any position before. and making him the starter.
                  Don't be a hater. Haley knows what he's doing.

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                  • birtikidis
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4628

                    #84
                    I'm an o-line guy. I'm tired of putting guys in the wrong spot year in and year out. We've been doing it for years and it's gotten us very little.
                    and I won't hate Haley until we can't score from the 5 in 4 attempts. Or until he runs a reverse from the 2. whatever comes first.

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                    • Crash
                      Legend
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      #85
                      Originally posted by birtikidis
                      I'm an o-line guy. I'm tired of putting guys in the wrong spot year in and year out. We've been doing it for years and it's gotten us very little.
                      and I won't hate Haley until we can't score from the 5 in 4 attempts. Or until he runs a reverse from the 2. whatever comes first.
                      That's what they are trying to avoid. They are moving ONE GUY (Colon) rather than most of the line.

                      Btw, Arians had an end around for Wallace in Denver playoff game.

                      Touchdown.

                      See what happens when they aren't doing the predictable "Stiller Football" run on first and goal?

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                      • birtikidis
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4628

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Crash
                        That's what they are trying to avoid. They are moving ONE GUY (Colon) rather than most of the line.

                        Btw, Arians had an end around for Wallace in Denver playoff game.

                        Touchdown.

                        See what happens when they aren't doing the predictable "Stiller Football" run on first and goal?
                        He also had an end around inside the five. result, missed field goal.
                        ONE GUY? HA! We will have 3 new starters next year on the O-Line.
                        Adams, Colon, and DeCastro.

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                        • Crash
                          Legend
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5008

                          #87
                          ONE GUY? HA! We will have 3 new starters next year on the O-Line.
                          Adams, Colon, and DeCastro.


                          Adams played LT at OSU.

                          DeCastro played RG at Stanford.

                          Colon is the one moving from where he played last season.

                          This is the best option. They also keep Gilbert at RT where he played most of the year.

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                          • birtikidis
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4628

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Crash
                            Adams played LT at OSU.

                            DeCastro played RG at Stanford.

                            Colon is the one moving from where he played last season.

                            This is the best option. They also keep Gilbert at RT where he played most of the year. [/COLOR]
                            I'll be worried until Colon proves me wrong. I wasn't a fan of his at RT and I'm not a fan of him protecting Ben's blind side. I'd rather have a guy who took snaps last year at ANY LEVEL. Colon has taken a handful of snaps in the past two years. I'm also not sold on Adams yet. He's got the talent though.

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                            • Flasteel
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4004

                              #89
                              Originally posted by birtikidis
                              Excited is putting a first round talent at a position for the first time.
                              worried is putting an oft injured veteran who has never played the position before and who may not have ever deserved to start at any position before. and making him the starter.
                              Colon wasn't that bad as a RT. He struggled with outside speed rushers, which was compounded by his propensity for false starts and holding penalties. Moving him inside eliminates this issue. He's also built like a guard and is a mauler in the run game, so he seems to have the requisite tools. Two major injuries that are unrelated and do not involve a joint...I'm not ready to call him injury-prone yet and I'm not real worried about it either. Even if he can't make the transition, I'm not freaking out about Essex, Foster, & Legs battling it out to replace him...I just don't think we'll need to worry about it.

                              The only thing that I'm really apprehensive about is Adams and the complete lack of an adequate starter at LT if he struggles or goes down. Getting Max back in the fold would make me feel better about the situation fo sho.
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                              • AkronSteel
                                Pro Bowler
                                • May 2008
                                • 1272

                                #90
                                I must say.....for the first time in a long time, I'm actually excited to see what the offensive line is going to look like this season. I'm excited to see Willie Colon move over to LG. I've been wanting the Steelers to make that move for a while now. I think he could be a Pro Bowl type LG and with his nasty streak he will fit well inside. I'm excited to see the rookies,(DeCastro and Adams)....they are both major upgrades to the front wall. I expect DeCastro to start from day 1 at RG and probably be there for the next 10-12 years. Adams could take a while to develop and I could see the Steelers bringing back Starks to be a buffer if Adams is not completely ready. I would be absolutely happy with an offensive line on opening day consisting of:

                                LT: Starks
                                LG: Colon
                                C: Pouncey
                                RG: DeCastro
                                RT: Gilbert

                                Bench: Adams, Legursky, and Foster

                                That's a solid 8 on game day. The best we have seen in Pittsburgh since maybe the mid 90's with potential to be even better. I look forward to not worrying about #7 every time he drops back to pass. This lineup has the potential to get the Steelers back to being a threat on the ground consistently as well. I can't believe I'm acutally excited about the OL!!! It's been a long time coming!!!
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