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  • Chadman
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6537

    #16
    Originally posted by Slapstick
    If you think that Rainey will be able to pick up blitzing LBs on 3rd down as effectively as Batch, I'd think that you should think again...

    A 20 pound difference at 300+ is a lot smaller gap than a 30 pound difference at 180 lbs...
    Chadman doesn't think Rainey can pick up blitzing LB's. This is why the pick is a little confusing for Chadman- Rainey, while obviously an explosive player, doesn't really fit. Rainey as a slot WR- that Chadman can understand.

    Not saying Rainey is a bad player at all. Just that there were other RB's that might have been better compliments to Redman, leaving Batch to be the 3rd down guy. Now we have 2 3rd down guys.
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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    • winwithd
      Starter
      • Nov 2009
      • 895

      #17
      I was thinking the backfield will be pretty full, esp when Mendy comes back, if the Steelers use Rainey at RB. So I figured they would use him at receiver. If he has world-class speed, as someone said on one of these threads, does that mean he has Mike Wallace ability to take the top of the opposing defense? If so we dont have to worry about coming up with the money to keep Wallace.

      Batch was the talk of TC last year before he got hurt. He was doing it all and taking runs the distance. Rainey played at Florida for 3 or 4 years and just seems to be known as a guy that is fast.

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      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        #18
        I think that Haley has an opportunity with the Steelers to take what worked well in Arizona with Warner, Fitzgerald, Boldin and Breaston and combine that with what worked well in KC with Charles, McCluster, Moeaki and Battle...the Steelers have the QB and the offensive personnel to do just that and excel...

        Damn, I can't wait for the season...
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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        • AkronSteel
          Pro Bowler
          • May 2008
          • 1272

          #19
          Originally posted by Chadman
          Chadman doesn't think Rainey can pick up blitzing LB's. This is why the pick is a little confusing for Chadman- Rainey, while obviously an explosive player, doesn't really fit. Rainey as a slot WR- that Chadman can understand.

          Not saying Rainey is a bad player at all. Just that there were other RB's that might have been better compliments to Redman, leaving Batch to be the 3rd down guy. Now we have 2 3rd down guys.
          I don't think we can truly say what we have with Rainey or Batch!! Batch looked solid last summer for a couple of weeks but he blew his knee before the first preseason game. He was looking good in practice but that isn't any indication whether or not he is going to be any good when the lights come on. I don't see any reason why drafting Rainey is a bad thing. If nothing else he breeds competition and he brings a lot of speed with him. I'm not saying that Batch is a bad guy or won't make the team but let's not act like the guy has even secured his own spot on the 53. He's gonna have to earn his spot to beat out Rainey. I hope for the best for Batch and I'm cheering him on but I don't see why drafting Rainey was a bad thing. We don't know if Batch is even going to be able to make it through a full preseason!!!
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          • flippy
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 17088

            #20
            Originally posted by steelz09
            I think Rainey makes the team easily unless he gets injured. The guy is a big-time weapon w/ world class speed. Batch isn't the same type of weapon.
            And don't forget he wants to set the NFL punt block record.

            And he's not just a RB. He's played WR too. Turning into an athletic version of Wes Welker isn't out of the realm of possibility. He could be competing for a WR position.
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            • BigRob
              Pro Bowler
              • Jul 2008
              • 1381

              #21
              Everyone is forgetting that Roster's are now 90 players not 85. That changes things alot.
              Here comes the BOOM!
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              • RuthlessBurgher
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #22
                Originally posted by BigRob
                Everyone is forgetting that Roster's are now 90 players not 85. That changes things alot.
                You can bring 90 players to training camp, but by the end of camp, you still have to whittle that down to 53 guys on your final roster, plus an 8 man practice squad (and only 45 of those guys are active on game days).
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • focosteeler
                  Starter
                  • May 2010
                  • 760

                  #23
                  Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                  Rainey stays on primarily as a slot receiver and ST demon; Batch is the third-down back. They both make the final cut.
                  I wouldnt mind seeing them both in the backfield on 3rd down sometimes. On either side of the QB in shotgun....mix it up constantly... I think they both make it, Batch will take Moore's spot and Rainey might take a ST guy like Battles spot. Rainey is a weapon in so many facets of the game I think its crazy talk to say he wont get a spot
                  1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
                  2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
                  3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
                  4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
                  5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
                  6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
                  7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340

                  UDFA
                  DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
                  OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242

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                  • BigRob
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1381

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    You can bring 90 players to training camp, but by the end of camp, you still have to whittle that down to 53 guys on your final roster, plus an 8 man practice squad (and only 45 of those guys are active on game days).
                    Yes you are correct, but it gives the Steelers a chance to eye 5 more players than normal throughout the off season and training camp. Greater chance to find a gem.
                    Here comes the BOOM!
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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      #25
                      46 are active on game day now...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • Sugar
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 3700

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        46 are active on game day now...
                        Gotta make room for that long snapper!

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Slapstick
                          46 are active on game day now...
                          Good call...no more designated 3rd QB rule.
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            #28
                            Rolle a unique study for Steelers

                            June 24, 2012
                            Teresa Varley - Steelers.com

                            It’s not often a football player wants to spend an afternoon with a neurosurgeon, as it usually implies having baseline concussion tests or something similarly uncomfortable.

                            But Myron Rolle isn’t your average football player. So when he spent a recent afternoon shadowing Steelers neurosurgeon Joseph Maroon, it came as no surprise.

                            “We saw about 20 patients,” said Rolle. “I have shadowed doctors before, but he is a very special doctor.”

                            Rolle is pretty special himself. The saying, a ‘gentleman and a scholar’ applies for the Steelers safety who was signed this offseason.

                            When football is over, he wants to pursue a career as a philanthropic neurosurgeon, travelling around the world to help those who need it the most, particularly in underdeveloped nations.

                            “When I was in sixth grade I read a book called ‘Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story,’” said Rolle. “That inspired me to go into that field.”

                            He graduated from Florida State in a mere two and a half years, managing to balance school and football, without allowing either to suffer.

                            “It was about prioritizing and making sure I knew what was important,” said Rolle. “My parents always stressed the importance of academics and I did that since I was younger so that was routine for me. When I got to Florida State I knew I went there to earn my degree, set myself up as a future draft pick and make an impact in the community. Once I had that mindset and conceptualized that, it made putting the different items I had to do every day in order really easy.”

                            And if something was difficult, he still found a way to master it and turn it into something positive.

                            “The toughest class I had at Florida State was human biochemistry,” said Rolle. “It was so difficult I ended up doing research with the professor. We studied human mesenchymal stem cells and some cancer cells. I got a $6,000 grant to study those in the summer.

                            “The difficulty of the class attracted me to it. I had to go see a teacher for office hours to help. We developed a relationship and he brought the idea about doing the research and we picked it up from there.”

                            It was that ability to challenge and push himself to the limit and succeed that earned Rolle a Rhodes Scholarship, something awarded only to the best and the brightest.

                            Rolle had an interview for the Rhodes Scholarship on November, 22, 2008, the same day Florida State played at Maryland. Most people would choose one or the other. It’s no surprise Rolle not only choose both, but mastered both.

                            “It was remarkable, probably one of the best days of my life,” said Rolle, who used the Rhodes Scholarship to earn his master’s degree in medical anthropology from Oxford University. “I had a lot of support from Florida State, from the athletic department, making sure all I had to do was focus on the interview and show myself as a worthy candidate. Fortunately the result was in my favor as a Rhodes Scholar elect.

                            “After the interview I got on a private plane to head to Maryland for the game. And we won the game. It was two victories not only for me, but our university improving our academic image.”

                            While studying at Oxford was the perfect decision for Rolle for his medical future, it did delay his football future. He spent 2009 at Oxford not participating in athletics, missing football but having no regrets.

                            “Looking back at it, if I have any regrets it’s very short-lived and very transient,” said Rolle. “If you look at the big picture, I think I made the right decision for myself and my family, and for those that look at me as a role model for scholastics and athletics.”

                            Despite his accomplishments in the classroom, there is something Rolle still desires – to play in the NFL. Rolle was the Tennessee Titans sixth-round draft pick in 2010, spending a year on the practice squad, but was released by them prior to the 2011 season.

                            He signed a futures contact with the Steelers in January, and is now on the roster, just finishing up OTAs and mini-camp and preparing for training camp.

                            “I still have a love for the game,” said Rolle. “I still have athleticism in my corporal body to be able to contribute to a team. I am excited about this opportunity. Everything here is high tempo, high intensity. The coaches love the game. You get the feel that everybody loves it here. When I signed with Pittsburgh I had fans welcome me on Facebook and Twitter. It was overwhelming. To have that love and to give it back is something I want to do on the field, showing it every snap, 100 percent, doing everything I can.”

                            Rolle, 25, will be fighting to provide depth behind Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Will Allen and Ryan Mundy.

                            “Every time I step on the field it’s an opportunity,” said Rolle. “Every time I take a snap it’s my chance to show the coaches and organization that I can contribute here and earn a spot. There is a level I want to reach. There is a level every man needs to reach here to be a Steeler and a part of this team and I am just looking forward to grinding it out every day to get here.

                            “Hands down this is the best I have felt. I am learning a new system and around some inspired and enthusiastic coaches who want to see the best out of all of us. I feel like I am in a good position right now. I think the Lord has placed challenges in my football career that have helped me be a better player. I think there is an old adage that says, ‘Rough seas make a better sailor.’ I think I have gone through some rough seas in my athletic career and I am primed and ready to make an impact and hopefully earn a spot on this team.”

                            [URL]http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Rolle-a-unique-study-for-Steelers/a4931b70-eddf-4b40-9126-5efbc5ed7797[/URL]

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