Why Did Decastro Fall to 24?

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  • flippy
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 17088

    Why Did Decastro Fall to 24?

    Because he's a G and the position isn't so valuable in the grand scheme?

    Because other teams drafted for need? reached?

    Just curious why you guys/gals think this happened? To me he looks as close to a sure thing as any player that's ever been drafted. I'm still in shock he was there at 24.

    Maybe in addition to position, teams felt like there's a deep pool of Gs and they could do just fine with a number of them, so there was no urgency to pull the trigger on him.
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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    I think the run on pass rushers made everyone who wanted one reach a little. Some of the guys taken like Couples, Irvin, etc. have bust potential. There just seemd to be a run on defense.

    If you notice the OTs fell too.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #3
      Originally posted by flippy
      Because he's a G and the position isn't so valuable in the grand scheme?
      Ding ding ding...we have a winner.

      But you know what is valuable in the grand scheme?

      Players oozing with Pro Bowl potential no matter what position they play.

      We once again take advantage of the stupidity of other teams.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        #4
        It is both, Flippy...

        Bizarre overdrafting (Bruce Irvin), understandable over drafting (Shea McClellin) and just plain bad ideas (Brandon Weeden) combined with the undervalued nature of the offensive guard combined to make Steeler fans rejoice all over the world...
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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        • phillyesq
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 7568

          #5
          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          Ding ding ding...we have a winner.

          But you know what is valuable in the grand scheme?

          Players oozing with Pro Bowl potential no matter what position they play.

          We once again take advantage of the stupidity of other teams.
          Yup. There is the reason the Steelers are positioned where they are and teams like the Browns remain the Browns.

          In 2-3 years, the Steelers will be looking at one of the best guards in the league at best, or a solid starter at worst, while the Browns will be looking for yet another QB.

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          • grotonsteel
            Hall of Famer
            • Jul 2008
            • 2810

            #6
            OG is not considered so valuable. Also this year i think there are quite a few good OG in Rd2-Rd 4. So its a case of Supply and Demand.

            Also NFL is a copy cat league. They saw what Giants did and everyone wants premium pass-rushers early in the draft.
            Steelers Draft 2015
            Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
            Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
            Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
            Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
            Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
            Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
            Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #7
              Originally posted by grotonsteel
              OG is not considered so valuable. Also this year i think there are quite a few good OG in Rd2-Rd 4. So its a case of Supply and Demand.

              Also NFL is a copy cat league. They saw what Giants did and everyone wants premium pass-rushers early in the draft.
              It really is supply and demand. Keep in mind that you not only have all the top Guard coming out of college every year but you also have a significant number of college OTs who have to move inside for various reasons to make it in the NFL. Unlike many other positions where the supply is less than the demand, Guard is the one position that actually gets a supply boost because of OTs moving inside.
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • Northern_Blitz
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 24382

                #8
                Based on what I've read here and elsewhere, DeCastro will be a great addition to the team.

                I do think it's worth mentioning that the last time we were this fired up about early picks in the draft was when we got another two guys that fell early and were "can't miss" prospects. Mendenhall and Sweed looked great on draft day.

                I think DeCastro was the right call by the FO. But every drafted player is a lottery ticket. I also think that the bust potential for OL is generally lower than other positions so I am hopeful. Here's hoping that the kid lives up to the expectations (although that seems hard when he's instantly compared to Faneca and Hutchinson).

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                • Dee Dub
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4652

                  #9
                  Are you serious? You dont know why he fell to #24? here how about this...


                  Ryan Tannehill
                  Mark Barron
                  Dontari Poe
                  Stephon Gilmore
                  Bruce Irvin
                  Michael Brockers
                  Quinton Coples
                  Shea McClellin
                  Chandler Jones
                  Brandon Weeden

                  All 10 of these players teams reached for. Not one of them is a higher rated player than DeCastro.
                  Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                  1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    It is both, Flippy...

                    Bizarre overdrafting (Bruce Irvin), understandable over drafting (Shea McClellin) and just plain bad ideas (Brandon Weeden) combined with the undervalued nature of the offensive guard combined to make Steeler fans rejoice all over the world...
                    While Bruce Irvin could be considered a reach, I think he will be a special player at the next level. I don't know if I have ever seen a linebacker that able to get after a QB.
                    Trolls are people too.

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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23824

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      While Bruce Irvin could be considered a reach, I think he will be a special player at the next level. I don't know if I have ever seen a linebacker that able to get after a QB.

                      Can he get after the QB while suspended or in jail????
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • Dee Dub
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4652

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Shawn
                        While Bruce Irvin could be considered a reach, I think he will be a special player at the next level. I don't know if I have ever seen a linebacker that able to get after a QB.
                        He is a one dimensional player that 99.9 % of the teams had him rated no higher than mid second round.
                        Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                        1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                        • Chadman
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 6537

                          #13
                          Wow- just heard on ESPN that he has a back-condition type injury that he's dealt with the last 4 years....
                          The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                          Light up the darkness.

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                          • Chadman
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 6537

                            #14
                            Actually- that's not true...but Chadman would have paid to see Ruthless' face as he read that..
                            The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                            Light up the darkness.

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                            • williar
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1170

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                              Based on what I've read here and elsewhere, DeCastro will be a great addition to the team.

                              I do think it's worth mentioning that the last time we were this fired up about early picks in the draft was when we got another two guys that fell early and were "can't miss" prospects. Mendenhall and Sweed looked great on draft day.

                              I think DeCastro was the right call by the FO. But every drafted player is a lottery ticket. I also think that the bust potential for OL is generally lower than other positions so I am hopeful. Here's hoping that the kid lives up to the expectations (although that seems hard when he's instantly compared to Faneca and Hutchinson).

                              This is what I am talking about. The last time I've seen this board so excited like this over a draft pick was when we drafted Mendenhall and Sweed. I was excited too. Some of you are acting like we won the super bowl already over DeCastro. Can he help Ben get rid of the ball quicker? If the answer is yes, then we might be on to something here.

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