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  • Shoe
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4044

    Redman vs. Richardson

    They got Richardson, we got Isaac Redman.

    They have a similar running style... Am I crazy to think we can have comparable on-field production this year from our undrafted free agent, as they get from the third overall pick?
    I wasn't hired for my disposition.
  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #2
    Yes, you are crazy. Redman is solid. Richardson is a BEAST.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • Shoe
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4044

      #3
      So I guess you don't think Redman is capable of 1,000+ yards in a season? Interesting.

      I think he is... I think he is capable of 1,200... 1,400 even. Granted, that's pretty optimistic, but if he's able to just hit 1,000--I think that will compare to Richardson in his rookie season.
      I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #4
        A thousand yard rushing season is reasonably solid production. That's what Redman is capable of.

        Beastly backs get 1500+ yards and over 2000 yards when you add in their receiving yardage, plus double digit TD's. That's what Richardson is capable of (if Cleveland has reasonable enough pieces around him, which at this point, is questionable).
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #5
          Crazy talk...Richardson is the best back I have seen since Peterson. He is a game changer. Redman is not.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • SteelCrazy
            Legend
            • Aug 2008
            • 5049

            #6
            comparing Redman to Richardson is like comparing me to Redman.
            2019 Mock

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            • birtikidis
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4628

              #7
              Richardson will have one of the BEST LT to run behind and a pretty darn good center too. Couple first rounders.

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #8
                Is mentioning Redman and Richardson in the same sentence even serious??? Please be realistic. Richardson is a future star and Redman never will be.
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Shoe
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 4044

                  #9
                  I don't understand what is so crazy. Are people expecting Richardson to go off for 1,500 yards next year?

                  I asked if Redman might have a comparable year to Richardson this year. Haley is planning on bringing in a more run-oriented scheme. Is it that far off to think Redman gains 1,000+ yards? If he does, IMO, that would compare with a good rookie year from Richardson.
                  I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                  • flippy
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 17088

                    #10
                    Now that we've got Decastro, the sky's the limit for all the Steelers' RBs.

                    Better linemen lead to Heath being used more in the passing game.

                    That leads to less men in the box to block.

                    That makes the linemen more effective.

                    And in turn helps the running game.

                    Which in turn will give Ben extra seconds to make plays downfield to Wallace, Brown, and Sanders.

                    Who cares about Richardson, we friggin got Decastro.

                    God is a Steelers fan, that's for sure.
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                    • phillyesq
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 7568

                      #11
                      Originally posted by birtikidis
                      Richardson will have one of the BEST LT to run behind and a pretty darn good center too. Couple first rounders.
                      Redman now has a two first rounders as well. That said, it isn't at all close. Put differently -- if you plugged Redman into the Browns, with no WRs and no passing game, what would you expect from him? Richardson, even with a D keyed on him, can carry that team.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        #12
                        Richardson has proven himself already in the NFL??
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #13
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          Richardson has proven himself already in the NFL??

                          Has Redman really proven himself? He played because the starter got hurt. Not exactly trending for the HoF. Richardson will be the better back and trying to cast Redman as anywhere near him talent-wise is laughable.
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • phillyesq
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 7568

                            #14
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            Richardson has proven himself already in the NFL??
                            Would you trade Redman for Richardson? I sure as hell would, and I like Redman.

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                            • Shoe
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4044

                              #15
                              Would you trade Barry Foster for Emmitt Smith? Barry Sanders?

                              My guess is a resounding YES. Yet for one season, Foster paced both Sanders and Smith in a season (when both had excellent years). The people who are dismissing the notion are either not understanding the question:

                              -(I asked if you thought Redman, with a starting job + a new commitment to the run game, could produce on par with Cleveland's #1 pick)

                              -Think that Redman is only capable of 600 or so yards (legitimate opinion)

                              -think Richardson is going to set the league on fire (IMO, a longshot this season)
                              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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