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  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3938

    #16
    If the Steelers draft Glenn...You have an open competition at LT with Gilbert going into camp as the starter and Glenn will also see time at LG. We all know Legursky & Foster's jobs will be theirs to lose going into camp no matter who they draft. The roster is set that way right now and the Steelers conduct the competition from incumbent to challenger. When it is all said & done...Glenn will be one of the best 5 going into week one and he will have a home. We all saw Gilbert play RT at a high level. Gilbert also played G in college and if you remember...Before the Colon injury he was in position to challange at G. Gilbert has a destination but how the draft falls may determine his home. The characteristic of a Steeler OL is flexibility and it holds true to the current group.

    The Steelers already have their eye on this years "Gilbert". His name is Bobby Massie. He is a RT playing in a LT's body. I don't think the Steelers feel Martin and Glenn will drop to them. If one was there...I think it would be an easy choice for them. Adam's blunder is being reported as fully disclosed to teams by Adams. This appears to be the case. That would make more sense to me given his play & background as it relates to the Steelers interest. I believe now they had no intention of drafting him in the 1st. The Steelers are very well informed in the OS program and they knew that marijuana was in Adams history. They may feel Adams drops to the 2nd. Perhaps Adams & Massie are targets in the 2nd if an OT doesn't fall in the 1st. The risk/reward on Adams in the 2nd could be argued but if he is on their board I'm sure they are confident if they make the pick.

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    • Sugar
      Hall of Famer
      • Oct 2008
      • 3700

      #17
      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
      So, basically, what I'm saying is that I think if he played left tackle as a rookie, he'd be an average NFL left tackle with the potential to become a good left tackle in the future.
      Average would be par for this OL.

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      • calmkiller
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1819

        #18
        I am sick and tired of drafting OL and playing them out of position. If you want/need a guard then draft a fing guard. Not a tackle and put him at guard. DRAFT A GUARD TO PLAY ONLY GUARD!
        LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
        Here We Go Steelers!
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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #19
          Originally posted by calmkiller
          I am sick and tired of drafting OL and playing them out of position. If you want/need a guard then draft a fing guard. Not a tackle and put him at guard. DRAFT A GUARD TO PLAY ONLY GUARD!
          His name is Kevin Zeitler and I think drafting him to play Guard is exactly what we should do. All this nonsense about #24 is 10-15 picks too early is well....nonsense. These ranking number are nothing but opinions. Look at what he can do for the team and ignore the numbers.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • Dee Dub
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2010
            • 4652

            #20
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            His name is Kevin Zeitler and I think drafting him to play Guard is exactly what we should do. All this nonsense about #24 is 10-15 picks too early is well....nonsense. These ranking number are nothing but opinions. Look at what he can do for the team and ignore the numbers.
            So why cant you trade back 10-15 spots, draft him where he should go, and pick up another 3rd round pick?

            Seems like common sense to me.
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            • Flasteel
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4008

              #21
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              His name is Kevin Zeitler and I think drafting him to play Guard is exactly what we should do. All this nonsense about #24 is 10-15 picks too early is well....nonsense. These ranking number are nothing but opinions. Look at what he can do for the team and ignore the numbers.
              I would be totally cool with Zeitler at 24.
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              • Sugar
                Hall of Famer
                • Oct 2008
                • 3700

                #22
                Originally posted by Dee Dub
                So why cant you trade back 10-15 spots, draft him where he should go, and pick up another 3rd round pick?

                Seems like common sense to me.
                For that you'd need a partner. If you could find one, that's cool. If not, you wouldn't have the option. I'm personally not into getting any OL in the first round. However, the FO might have other ideas.

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                • TD386Steel
                  Backup
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 277

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Flasteel
                  I would be totally cool with Zeitler at 24.
                  Me too if he's as good as Logan Mankins, which is what some are saying.

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                  • Flasteel
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4008

                    #24
                    Originally posted by TD386Steel
                    Me too if he's as good as Logan Mankins, which is what some are saying.
                    I realize it's only one opinion, but the below excerpt also mentions that Zeitler led the nation in knockdown blocks with an incredible 142 and had 33 blocks which resulted in TDs. Wow.

                    04/02/12 - NFL DRAFT SCOUT TOP OFFENSIVE LINEMEN: Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin, 6-4, 314...A perfectionist, Zeitler expects more out of himself than anybody else could in class, the weight room and on the field. His anxious nitpicking is noticed and not always well-accepted by classmates, teachers and teammates. But it is opposing defenders who pay the price when the sum of his hard work pays off on the field. So, as expected, scouting reports show he does just about everything according to the book to his best ability -- and he has plenty of ability. Zeitler added a significant amount of lean mass in his college career and used it well. According NFL Draft Report statistics, he led college football with 142 knockdown blocks and had 33 blocks that resulted in touchdowns, obviously a major reason Wisconsin had a per-game average of 44.62 points and 467 total yards, including 237 on the ground. - Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange
                    Last edited by Flasteel; 04-21-2012, 09:45 AM. Reason: font color
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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35650

                      #25
                      Ed Bouchette's chat transcript 4/24/12:


                      BillinSF: Why have you "soured a little bit on Cordy Glenn"?

                      Ed Bouchette: Because I heard they did not have him ranked as high as I thought they might.

                      [URL="http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/116079-ed-bouchettes-steelers-chat-transcript-42412"]http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/i...anscript-42412[/URL]

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        Ed Bouchette's chat transcript 4/24/12:


                        BillinSF: Why have you "soured a little bit on Cordy Glenn"?

                        Ed Bouchette: Because I heard they did not have him ranked as high as I thought they might.

                        [URL="http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/116079-ed-bouchettes-steelers-chat-transcript-42412"]http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/i...anscript-42412[/URL]
                        And if you believe ANYTHING that an NFL teams says the week before the draft, you are a great fool.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #27
                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          And if you believe ANYTHING that an NFL teams says the week before the draft, you are a great fool.
                          I agree, but it seems like Glenn has lost some of his momentum over the course of the last month. Not sure why unless there are real concerns about his fitness and doubts that his fitness would actually let him go outside to OT. Keep in mind he shot up the boards because of the possibility to play on the outside. If he was a Guard only he would be late-1st/early-2nd.
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            I agree, but it seems like Glenn has lost some of his momentum over the course of the last month. Not sure why unless there are real concerns about his fitness and doubts that his fitness would actually let him go outside to OT. Keep in mind he shot up the boards because of the possibility to play on the outside. If he was a Guard only he would be late-1st/early-2nd.
                            That works for me...if other teams think he's a guard only and therefore don't take him in the first 23 picks, then I'd take him at #24 and then play him as a guard. To me, the possibility that he could also play tackle is merely an extra added bonus.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 10287

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              I agree, but it seems like Glenn has lost some of his momentum over the course of the last month. Not sure why unless there are real concerns about his fitness and doubts that his fitness would actually let him go outside to OT. Keep in mind he shot up the boards because of the possibility to play on the outside. If he was a Guard only he would be late-1st/early-2nd.
                              Guards don't gain momentum as the draft approaches. That is usually reserved for more glamorous positions. QBs and tackles jump higher now. Perhaps some corners, receivers, and backs as well. Guards, Centers, Linerbackers.....they have had their run already.
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                              • Oviedo
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 23824

                                #30
                                Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                                Guards don't gain momentum as the draft approaches. That is usually reserved for more glamorous positions. QBs and tackles jump higher now. Perhaps some corners, receivers, and backs as well. Guards, Centers, Linerbackers.....they have had their run already.
                                That was my point. Glenn was rising because of the thought he could play OT. If less people think that is not true then he is going to drop.
                                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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