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  • BigRob
    Pro Bowler
    • Jul 2008
    • 1381

    1st pick up in the air

    I have to admit I am not confident about guessing the 1st pick in the draft. Hell, I can definitely see the Steelers going pure BPA this year. We have so many needs I don't think they are zeroed in on just one or two positions.

    I was not surprised by the last three first round picks. I knew we were going Pouncey and Heyward last year. Hood was not a huge huge surprise, but I cannot draw bead this year yet and its not looking like I am going to be able to.

    What say you?
    Here comes the BOOM!
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  • Sugar
    Hall of Famer
    • Oct 2008
    • 3700

    #2
    Originally posted by BigRob
    I have to admit I am not confident about guessing the 1st pick in the draft. Hell, I can definitely see the Steelers going pure BPA this year. We have so many needs I don't think they are zeroed in on just one or two positions.

    I was not surprised by the last three first round picks. I knew we were going Pouncey and Heyward last year. Hood was not a huge huge surprise, but I cannot draw bead this year yet and its not looking like I am going to be able to.

    What say you?
    I'm thinking the same thing. BPA seems the right way to go. There are areas of need, but I wouldn't be too shocked by about anything they did this time. This has been a very good team and the only starter that needs to be replaced is Farrior, and Foote is serviceable and waiting in the wings.

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #3
      Originally posted by BigRob
      I have to admit I am not confident about guessing the 1st pick in the draft.
      I'm reasonably confident about guessing that the 1st pick in the draft will be Andrew Luck.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #4
        I say OL or get Ben more life insurance. If we don't fix the OL everything else will be moot.
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        • BigRob
          Pro Bowler
          • Jul 2008
          • 1381

          #5
          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          I'm reasonably confident about guessing that the 1st pick in the draft will be Andrew Luck.
          Congratulations, You have just won the Smart Ass of the Day award. This award puts you in the top 1% of message board douche bags.

          Plus you are now a member of the 1 percenters.
          Here comes the BOOM!
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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            Originally posted by BigRob
            Congratulations, You have just won the Smart Ass of the Day award. This award puts you in the top 1% of message board douche bags.

            Plus you are now a member of the 1 percenters.

            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • ikestops85
              Hall of Famer
              • Jun 2008
              • 3724

              #7
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              I say OL or get Ben more life insurance. If we don't fix the OL everything else will be moot.
              I'm with you Ovi ... I hope they pick 2 offensive linemen with our first 4 picks.
              As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

              but Go Steelers!!!

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              • Sugar
                Hall of Famer
                • Oct 2008
                • 3700

                #8
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                I say OL or get Ben more life insurance. If we don't fix the OL everything else will be moot.
                I don't see it this way. There is solid depth down the line in this draft. We don't need to have an elite OL as long as they are good enough to allow us to use our weapons. When you have the kind of injuries that they had last year, it makes it a lot tougher but those kinds of injuries on any group will make its play suffer.

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                • Dee Dub
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4652

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ikestops85
                  I'm with you Ovi ... I hope they pick 2 offensive linemen with our first 4 picks.
                  You guys wanna tell us which one at 24? Who is worthy of that pic that will be there at 24? I mean we have only been asking this question for the past 3 months. And this is what you come up with?
                  Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                  1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                  • pfelix73
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 3458

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    I say OL or get Ben more life insurance. If we don't fix the OL everything else will be moot.

                    I'm sure he has a good life insurance plan. Especially since he runs around so much in and out of the pocket......

                    Furthermore, I think it would be rediculous to pick 2 OL in the 1st two rounds. 1, yes. 2? no way.
                    Last edited by pfelix73; 04-16-2012, 08:14 PM.
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                    • Chadman
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6537

                      #11
                      It's entirely possible we have overthought the situation too much. The Steelers won't reach, they won't select a questionable character guy, and they won't draft a small school guy.

                      While they don't draft for 'immediate' need, they tend to draft guys that will fill a role within 2-3 years, so look for positions that need upgrading through talent or age.

                      They'll look for guys that will fit their system.

                      Chances are they'll look at OL, DL, LB or Safety. Maybe RB. Doubt they'll look at CB because they have 3 young guys fighting for the open CB spot, unlikely they'll look at TE because they won't use the #2 TE enough to get value, they won't pick a QB, obviously.

                      It'll be a player from this group- Cordy Glenn (depends on how he interviews), Mark Barron, Donta Hightower, Jonathon Martin, Nick Perry, Devon Still, David Wilson or Courtney Upshaw.

                      Chadman would suggest that Perry & Upshaw are the least likely in terms of preferred choices because they have Worilds, a 2nd rounder in place at this point. Jonathon Martin is a candidate to be selected higher than #24. Glenn is a wildcard as he could be overdrafted, or not convince the coaches he can control his weight...or he could fall to #24 & interview brilliantly..hard to get a handle on him. Barron is being talked about as a potential Cowboy's pick, but if he goes past 14, he could well be there at 24. Depending on the outlook regarding RB, Martin ticks a number of boxes. Hightower is probably the 'safest' selection in regards to ticking boxes, and Still fills a number of criteria too.

                      In order, Chadman would assume Hightower #1, Glenn #2, Barron #3, Still #4 & Martin #5 at this point...
                      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chadman
                        It's entirely possible we have overthought the situation too much. The Steelers won't reach, they won't select a questionable character guy, and they won't draft a small school guy.

                        While they don't draft for 'immediate' need, they tend to draft guys that will fill a role within 2-3 years, so look for positions that need upgrading through talent or age.

                        They'll look for guys that will fit their system.

                        Chances are they'll look at OL, DL, LB or Safety. Maybe RB. Doubt they'll look at CB because they have 3 young guys fighting for the open CB spot, unlikely they'll look at TE because they won't use the #2 TE enough to get value, they won't pick a QB, obviously.

                        It'll be a player from this group- Cordy Glenn (depends on how he interviews), Mark Barron, Donta Hightower, Jonathon Martin, Nick Perry, Devon Still, David Wilson or Courtney Upshaw.

                        Chadman would suggest that Perry & Upshaw are the least likely in terms of preferred choices because they have Worilds, a 2nd rounder in place at this point. Jonathon Martin is a candidate to be selected higher than #24. Glenn is a wildcard as he could be overdrafted, or not convince the coaches he can control his weight...or he could fall to #24 & interview brilliantly..hard to get a handle on him. Barron is being talked about as a potential Cowboy's pick, but if he goes past 14, he could well be there at 24. Depending on the outlook regarding RB, Martin ticks a number of boxes. Hightower is probably the 'safest' selection in regards to ticking boxes, and Still fills a number of criteria too.

                        In order, Chadman would assume Hightower #1, Glenn #2, Barron #3, Still #4 & Martin #5 at this point...
                        Good analysis but as we get closer I think less and less that it will be Hightower. Just too obvious so I think it is a smokescreen. I actually think Barron is potentially more benficial for us at #24 than Hightower. However, more and more I think Kevin Zeitler is in play at #24. He may be the most sure thing at interior OL after DeCastro. We know he will be gone by our pick in Round 2 so we would have to take him in Round 1.

                        Colbert doesn't miss in Round 1 and many of the players you list have questions. IMO Zeitler is more of a sure thing than Hightower, Glenn, Barron, Still or Martin. Colbert goes for sure things in Round 1.
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                        • SteelAddicted
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 30

                          #13
                          The Steelers are going to pick the BPA and that's the bottom line. The Steelers always go BPA. So... I would feel pretty happy if the BPA just happened to be OL, DT, ILB, DB, or RB. I think we could use a stud at all of those positions.

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                          • phillyesq
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 7568

                            #14
                            Based on my usual test of "guy I'm hoping they don't pick" I think, and fear that it will be Adams. Otherwise, I think there is a good chance Hightower is the pick. Pouncey and Heyward were both widely projected to the Steelers before they were selected, and I could see that happening with Hightower as well. Production from a big school - he fits their mold.

                            If an offensive lineman falls, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Steelers go in that direction, but I suspect they'll find an offensive lineman in the second round.

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                            • Sugar
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 3700

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SteelAddicted
                              The Steelers are going to pick the BPA and that's the bottom line. The Steelers always go BPA. So... I would feel pretty happy if the BPA just happened to be OL, DT, ILB, DB, or RB. I think we could use a stud at all of those positions.
                              There's good reason to feel good about that. This is a team that was a game away from being the #1 seed in the AFC and beat the eventual AFC representatives. Injuries hobbled this team for the playoffs, but we only lost one starter (probably the reason for so many mocking Hightower to us) with all of the off-season purging going on. This is a very good team that should be expected to contend no matter who we get in the first round or two.

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